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Re: How much do you drink?
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So if my glass is never empty does it count as just 1 drink?
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Cut-Throat:

Checking out your lovely rack, one word immediately jumps to mind: earthquakes.
Do you have a cover panel to hold in the bottles, or do you live in an area that never
shakes? (And are you sure it never does? Most places do, if infrequently...)

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Cube_Rat -

You did mention you recently dressed up for an interview...hmmmm

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You guys just have to bait me!

And NO this is NOT me!
Sure, sure, didn't you mention falling out of your blouse?
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Oh MY GAWD!
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Oh MY GAWD!
YEah, I like big, but that's totally out of control!
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That's just wrong, L. I mean a guy could suffocate to death between those puppies.
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That's just wrong, L. I mean a guy could suffocate to death between those puppies.
Hmmm, I think I've just figured out how I want ER to end.
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Hmmm, I think I've just figured out how I want ER to end.
You know, implants that size are made by the manufacturer upon request. Implants come in standard sizes, which she obviously does not have.

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Where did she come from Looks like she's employed by Land of Lakes Dairy.
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Implants come in standard sizes, which she obviously does not have.
But what she does have is HUGE.....back problems. :P

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I like to drink wine more than I used to. Anyway, I'm drinking more.
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That's just wrong, L. I mean a guy could suffocate to death between those puppies
So tell what you all see wrong with her? I'd take her home to mom.
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I'll drink to those.

But if the truth be told I prefer small perky racks.
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I'll drink to those.

But if the truth be told I prefer small perky racks.
How do you like the points on this, ol Rancher ?
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Ohhhhhhh

That must have been at least a 20 point buck. Now that rack and a wedge of of aged Gouda cheese and a good table bread for the ol' deer stand and we have a great opening day for this hunting season.
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I am mostly a Red Wine Drinker. :P

When I found out the French and Italians could eat all that rich food, with good bread and butter and not have Cholesteral Problems, I enjoyed my Wine even More!

So I am one of the +15 Guys :P

Heck, I even built a Wine Rack in my Basement!

[img width=750 height=562]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v230/Cutthroat-trout/Misc%20Pics/SmallWineRack.jpg[/img]
Very nice set-up. But what are the things lower left that look like canisters of poison gas?

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No candles here, no basement either.

I'm having serious wine cellar envy, however!
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Ordinarily I consider myself a libertarian, but I think this surgery should be malpractice on the face of it.

No doctor should take a normal, attractive woman and turn her into a freak, even if she thinks she wants to be so turned.

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I'm in the 20 to 30 glasses of wine per week category. According to all the modern research I've seen in recent years, if you aren't drinking at least 14 drinks per week, you are limiting your longevity. Many studies indicate a number as high as 28 drinks per week.

Two to three glasses of red wine a night for health for me.

Here's some links and information. I've tracked down the technical papers for only about 4 of these studies, but they all are in general agreement. Moderate drinking every night reduces the risk of heart problems fairly significantly.


http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/Hea...106591095.html

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After adjustment for other factors, men overall who consumed from one to 28 drinks per week had a reduced risk for all-cause mortality of 14 to 22 percent. For women overall, all-cause mortality rates after adjustment were reduced by 18 percent for those who consumed one to seven drinks per week.
Reference: Maskarinec, G., et al. Alcohol intake, body weight, and mortality in a multiethnic prospective cohort. Epidemiology, 1998, 9(6), 654-661.

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The study, which carefully examined the 89,299 men in the Physicians' Health Study over a period of five and one-half years confirms the findings of other research in the United States as well as many countries around the world: those who drink alcohol in moderation tend to live longer than those who either abstain or drink heavily.
Reference: Gaziano, J.M. et al., Light-to-moderate alcohol consumption and mortality in the Physicians' Health Study enrollment cohort. Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 35(1), 2000, 96-105.

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The moderate consumption of alcohol (beer, wine and liquor) is associated with better health and greater longevity than is either abstinence or the abuse of alcohol.
Reference: Dodson, Roger. Alcohol prevents more deaths than it causes. Independent News (UK) 5-23-04.

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The results show that about two (2) years of life are gained by moderate drinkers (1-4 drinks per day) in comparison with occasional and heavy drinkers.

Drinking in moderation, exercising, and not smoking were all found to be associated with greater life expectancy.
Reference: Farchi, G., et al. Alcohol and survival in the Italian rural cohorts of the Seven Countries Study. International Journal of Epidemiology, 2000, 29, 667-671.

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It found that the lowest death rate from all causes occurs at the level of one to two drinks per day. That is, moderate drinkers have the greatest longevity.
References: Highlights of the NIAAA position paper on moderate alcohol consumption. Press release from the journal, Alcoholism: Clinical & Experimental Research, 6-14-04; Berman, Jessica. Moderate alcohol consumption benefits heart, U.S. government says. Voice of America News, 6-16-04.

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A major Australian study has found that abstainers were twice as likely to enter a nursing home as people who were moderate drinkers.
Reference: McCallum, J., et al. The Dubbo Study of the Health of the Elderly 1988-2002: An Epidemiological Study of Hospitaol and Residential Care. Sydney, NSW, Australia: The Australian Health Policy Institute, 2003.

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Those who drank and exercised regularly had fewer difficulties with their daily activities and physical functioning.
Reference: Wang, L. et al. Predictors of functional change: a longitudinal study of nondemented people aged 65 and older. Journal of the American Geriatrics Society, 2002, 50(9), 1525-1534

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