How much do you know about science topics?

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On the topic of convex lenses, I think it's odd that our brain sees the world upside-down, but we're absolutely convinced that it's right side-up :D

But, but, but not if the necessary reversal is provided by the wiring, er, the nerves.

Say, if you turn a video camera upside down, but also turn the TV upside down, everything is OK again.
 
Ah, it so happened that when I was up at my high-country home last week, I took the temperature of the pot I was boiling pasta in, and saw that it was in the 190's. My home is at 7,000 ft, higher than Denver.

PS. If you pull a vacuum on the water, it would boil at even below room temperature. The lower the pressure, the lower the boiling point.

I remember in General Science class in High School, must have been when I was a freshman, the teacher was boiling water at room temperature under a vacuum. He asked who would be willing to put their finger in the water. I practically ran up to the front to put my finger in in the water. Well I did say that I used to watch Mr Wizard on TV, didn't I?

(My English teacher on the other hand called me, and I quote, "an intellectual vulture," which was unfortunately all too true.)

But no more Mr Wizards on TV now. Now all I see are programs about Ancient Aliens, ghosts, UFOs and Bigfoot. I do seriously worry about the state of science literacy now. I don't want to sound political, but some of the scientific ignorance shown by these guys just completely floors me. There has to be some way to stimulate our young people into science, which is so much more exciting, interesting, and magical than all that cr*p we get now.

Please Mr. Wizard, where are you now when we need you?
 
I grew up without TV, and only learned of Mr. Wizard show just now.

As a kid, I learned most of the stuff I knew from books.


PS. By the way, I took the test again to look at the statistics they show at the end. The question most answered wrong is the one on boiling temperature (only 34% got it right), followed by the sound loudness (35% correct), then the magnifying glass (46%).
 
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I grew up without TV, and only learned of Mr. Wizard show just now.

As a kid, I learned most of the stuff I knew from books.
He was great, I still remember some of his shows to this day. I learned the physics of boiling water from one of his shows. How to tell salt from sugar, without tasting it. The conservation of energy. He did the heavy bowling ball tied on a rope to the ceiling. And have a kid against the wall hold the bowling ball next to his nose, and let it go. That was at the end of the show, after he taught them how it could never come back to hit them, no matter how fast it was traveling at the bottom of its swing. He always had kids help him with the experiments and would take them step by step. He made it captivating.

By the end of the show, they would confidently let the bowling ball go, know which was the sugar to put on their food, etc. and he would have taught them some fundamental principles along with useful practical information, and it would all be fun.
 
There has to be some way to stimulate our young people into science, which is so much more exciting, interesting, and magical than all that cr*p we get now.

Not arresting them when they bring their inventions to school would be a good start.
 
12/12 as well.

I did get lucky with the polio question. Didn't know the guys name but knew who the three others were. It's more of a know-your-famous-people question anyway than actual science.

Also slightly objected to the nuclear energy one. You can also build a nuclear weapon and make "nuclear energy" with plutonium no?
 
Also slightly objected to the nuclear energy one. You can also build a nuclear weapon and make "nuclear energy" with plutonium no?
Yes, but you need to make the plutonium, and that would (pretty much) require uranium, though it wouldn't be in the bomb itself.
 
12/12, but I guessed on the boiling water question. I've never cooked at high altitudes!

I just figured, the air pressure is lower the higher you go, so the vaporized water would have an easier time escaping.

Now if only I could solve household problems that easily.
 
Ding ding ding! Winner! :dance: I am so mad about the clock fiasco.

Not arresting them when they bring their inventions to school would be a good start.
 
100% correct. I too didn't like the astrology answer since the correct answer on a science test shouldn't be psuedo-science.
 
The magnifying glass question was easy, if one spent their childhood setting stuff on fire... :p
 
RE: boiling points versus altitude (air pressure actually, which is a function of altitude - but we can vary air pressure in a sealed container, regardless of altitude ):
I've experienced otherwise. Couldn't get those beans done in time in Denver!

Anybody who does serious baking has probably run across recipes where times were adjusted for altitude.

I wonder how many recognized that the boiling point changes, but got the direction wrong?

A more casual observer might recall the cooking directions, but unless they live at high altitude, might not recall if it was a longer or shorter cooking time (why bother noting this if it doesn't apply to you?). Further, even if I recall that cooking times are longer, I might use a somewhat reasonable line of thought that says "Hmmm, it takes longer to cook, so maybe that means the boiling point is higher, so it takes longer to come to a boil, and therefore longer to cook?" That's wrong, it's the lower boiling point temperature that results in longer cooking, but the thought process has some merit.

Now I have enough science background, and general curiosity, and some 1st hand experience with all this to know the correct answer, but I still hesitated a bit, and thought it through so I didn't give a "DOH!" wrong answer when I knew what was right.

A couple real-life examples:

Pressure cookers - high pressure raises the boiling point, increasing the cooking temperature, lowering cooking time.

Car radiators - they are sealed, and allow higher temperatures w/o boiling over.

But unless you are the type to notice and think about these things, it might escape you, and just seem like some useless trivia you were taught in high school.

I may try this later today - looks like fun!


And this thread also led to some other reading, and I learned that freeze dried food works by freezing the food, then subjecting it to a vacuum which causes the ice to sublimate (turn directly to a gas w/o turning into water first - like 'dry ice'). This leaves the structure of the food mostly intact, and it re-absorbs water readily into all these little pockets left behind.


Not arresting them when they bring their inventions to school would be a good start.

I hate to 'try people in the media', but I'll go as far as to say a kid needs to think before bringing a case filled with a digital clock and wires into a school. Did you see that thing? It looks a lot like the Hollywood/TV depiction of a bomb a terrorist would use.

On the surface, it appears they over-reacted with the arrest and so forth (but we don't know everything behind this), but clearly they had to take the situation very seriously. Can you imagine if they shrugged it off and it did turn out to be a bomb?

Schools are on high alert about these kinds of things. Right or wrong, I don't find it surprising that there was a strong reaction to this little project.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

100% correct. I too didn't like the astrology answer since the correct answer on a science test shouldn't be psuedo-science.

But isolating pseudo-science from real science is a reasonable way to access someone's understanding of science, no? In-line with some of the other less-than-perfectly-worded questions, would any other answer fit? You know those have nothing to do with people's behavior.

-ERD50
 
12/12 as well.

I did get lucky with the polio question. Didn't know the guys name but knew who the three others were. It's more of a know-your-famous-people question anyway than actual science.

I don't think so. Those were scientists, not famous people. This is a group of famous people (I know who four of them are). I suspect a higher percentage of people could name which of these people did something than got the Jonas Salk answer right.

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I don't think so. Those were scientists, not famous people. This is a group of famous people (I know who four of them are). I suspect a higher percentage of people could name which of these people did something than got the Jonas Salk answer right.

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Oh dear, I got 12/12 on the test (physics major) but I can't recognize ANY of the people above! As a young friend of my son would say "Epic fail"
 
You could say the earth's core question and the boiling water were similar enough that if you got one right you should get the other right.

At the central core, the pressure on the iron is so great that even though it is as hot as the sun, it is solid, not liquid.
 
I only got 4 (all women) and it took me a while...and I am a movie lover!

Science is just a lot more applicable to my daily life than celebrities are. :LOL:

Also I have a teeny bit of prosopagnosia. If you gave me the celebrities' names I'm sure I would recognize them all.

Oh dear, I got 12/12 on the test (physics major) but I can't recognize ANY of the people above! As a young friend of my son would say "Epic fail"
 
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PS. If you pull a vacuum on the water, it would boil at even below room temperature. The lower the pressure, the lower the boiling point.

which is why you really want to wear a pressure suit above 60,000 feet or so... pesky boiling blood.

RE: boiling points versus altitude (air pressure actually, which is a function of altitude - but we can vary air pressure in a sealed container, regardless of altitude ):

A couple real-life examples:

Pressure cookers - high pressure raises the boiling point, increasing the cooking temperature, lowering cooking time.

Car radiators - they are sealed, and allow higher temperatures w/o boiling over.

But unless you are the type to notice and think about these things, it might escape you, and just seem like some useless trivia you were taught in high school.
-ERD50

The above 3 examples are good everyday facts that demonstrate the effect that lower pressure reduces the boiling temperature of water or most (all?) liquids. However, many casual people do not notice this corroboration to put them together. If they did, it would reinforce the knowledge making it more difficult to forget, in contrast with having to remember something harder like a trigonometric identity.

DW has many wonderful qualities, but an understanding (or interest) in scientific principles is not one of them. I know better than to ask, especially to ask her to explain her score.

A lot of it has to do with aptitude. I have not asked my son to take the test, but would be very surprised if he fails any question. Yes, he is a mechanical engineer. His curiosity about the world around him is broad. For example, he studied the physics of knife sharpening, told us what we have been doing wrong, and proceeded to make all our knives a lot better.
 
I only got 9/12 of the science questions which I thought were not easy at all. As for the celebrities, i'm not 100% sure of the last one but I know the first and last names of all the others.
 
I hate to 'try people in the media', but I'll go as far as to say a kid needs to think before bringing a case filled with a digital clock and wires into a school. Did you see that thing? It looks a lot like the Hollywood/TV depiction of a bomb a terrorist would use.

On the surface, it appears they over-reacted with the arrest and so forth (but we don't know everything behind this), but clearly they had to take the situation very seriously. Can you imagine if they shrugged it off and it did turn out to be a bomb?

-ERD50

Except no one was evacuated...


Apparently no one was [-]intelligent[/-] observant enough to say "there are no explosives attached to this device"...
 
Lol, 11 of 12 for me. :yawn: I've forgotten my gas pressure laws so I already knew I was going to get the boiling point question wrong. Instead of getting lucky on a guess, I deliberately chose the wrong answer on that one. :rolleyes:

+1, same here.
 
I don't think so. Those were scientists, not famous people. This is a group of famous people (I know who four of them are). I suspect a higher percentage of people could name which of these people did something than got the Jonas Salk answer right.

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I can recognize Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston so that's 2/10. :rolleyes:
 
PS. If you pull a vacuum on the water, it would boil at even below room temperature. The lower the pressure, the lower the boiling point.

I did that in my 20's when I was working repairing A/C and refrigerators. I hooked up the vacuum pump to a baby food jar with a hole in the lid and used epoxy to attached a flared copper tube to the lid. The heat from my hand would make the water boil. Kinda neat to feel the temperature drop as the water boiled.
 
I don't think so. Those were scientists, not famous people. This is a group of famous people (I know who four of them are). I suspect a higher percentage of people could name which of these people did something than got the Jonas Salk answer right.

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I recognize Jennifer Aniston but am at a loss on the rest.
 
Don't ask me, I just googled "group of celebrities" and chose a picture. I recognized Reece Witherspoon, Jennifer Aniston, Denzel Washington (because I saw "The Equalizer" last night), and Matthew McConaughey(?). The lady between Denzel and McConaughey looks familiar, but no idea what her name is. Total blank on the others.


I didn't men to derail the thread, just making the point that "famous" means different things to different people. I suspect my daughter would do better on the celebrities than the science quiz. Sadly.
 
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