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05-07-2012, 06:42 AM
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gone traveling
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Eastern PA
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Originally Posted by Nords
...and a few of their members have had multiple humorectomies.
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How true! ...
As LOL! stated (and I agree), we're (at least I/DW are) blue collar, rather than blue blood, and feel much more comfortable here (sorry folks, I'm not going away, easily )...
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05-07-2012, 07:35 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: North Oregon Coast
Posts: 16,483
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Originally Posted by Lsbcal
I think the basic methods they preach are pretty decent such as low cost funds/ETF's and reduced or no timing. Unfortunately things are taken too far and this results in people not getting to really hear about other investment methods. There is too much intolerance IMO. I'd like to see a section which allows more free form ideas but am not holding my breath on that one.
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Sometimes it does feel that way -- if you're not indexing and you're not with Vanguard, then you're an idiot. An overgeneralization and perhaps a little too harsh I'll admit, but they're called "Bogleheads" for a reason. Informative place in many ways, but for me a hard one to "hang out in" by the water cooler since, well, they have no water cooler...
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05-07-2012, 11:23 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 7,113
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I REALLY miss Fund Alert and their analysis...
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05-07-2012, 07:53 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Pasadena CA
Posts: 3,346
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I deeply respect the Boglehead site, have been a not very active member since it started and when it was a Vanguard Diehards site at Morningstar. I have attended several local Boglehead get togethers and even organozed a couple of them. That being said, I much prefer this site as there is more to retirement/life than financial planning. This site has IMHO a better balance of humor and information and is moderated more to my liking.
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05-07-2012, 10:46 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hooverville
Posts: 22,983
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I got help from several people after my SS do-over went awry with the incredibled bungling by SSA in getting out an accurate 1099.
It seems that almost everyone who had done this maneuver got screwed up 1099s, one after another. An intelligent and dedicated worker in my local SSA office helped me see it through, and eventually I got an accurate 1099. A number of Bogleheads were quite experienced about this. There were also one or two guys formerly on this forum that were experienced with a do-over and quite helpful.
Apart from this, I rarely go there and have likely posted fewer than 50 times. I just find it less fun.
Ha
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05-08-2012, 08:07 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: irradiated - too close to the nuclear furnace
Posts: 1,294
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BH, love hate affair! I joined BH before ER but once I found ER I really cut back on BH visits to the point I seldom go there but once a month.
If you like to spend hours discussing how many angels can dance on the head of a pin they may well be your cup of tea. I swear there must be hundreds of threads started a day. They tend to be intolerant of views not 100% in sync with theirs as mentioned, they censor heavily which I detest, posts are pretty much limited to financial issues, oh there's a lot of reasons I don't like them, too many to go into. Lsbcal said many things I agree with and would have said. So for those reasons I don't spend much time there anymore, they drove me away with their heavy handed intolerance.
All that said, their philosophy is sound but a bit rigid like a 12 step program. I have gotten some good advice but also a lot of snarky replies. You just can't win there unless you drink the kool aid.
I like ER much more. The atmosphere here is much more relaxed and we can discuss all sorts of things more freely so censoring here is not as much of a problem.
Both sites are good and I monitor BH but since I check in about once every 3 or 4 weeks the volume of new posts is over whelming! I ignore 99% of the topics and just look at ones that sound interesting.
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05-08-2012, 08:12 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,252
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As haha's experience demonstrates, BH's is a great place to get advice on your portfolio and investments, but once you have gotten that advice, you know it is probably not going to change.
So unless you want specific new advice, there is probably no reason to spend time there. I mean, the answer to "What funds should I use in my 401(k)?" is not going to change unless your 401(k) fund selection changes.
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05-08-2012, 08:57 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 1,050
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I've found BH to be more investment focus with of course... Vanguard mindset/funds which works fine for me. Lots of good information, but I don't visit the site much after I determined my adjusted AA. YMMV with your investment approach
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05-08-2012, 09:23 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 1,500
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I just started here in mid-Feb and checked BH a couple weeks ago.
I knew I had found my tribe here when I read about reusing coffee filters/grounds.
I get info and a sense of community here. BH is a cacophony, TMI, stuff I already know .
Here I learn something new every day!
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05-09-2012, 12:21 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 5,214
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I came from there. I still go there once in a while when I need answers to specific investment/fund questions in a hurry, but some of the people there are almost abrasive...they seem stressed out. It's still a great place to visit though if you need help in rebalancing your asset allocation and such ( assuming you like the boglehead way of investing.)
Personally, I'd rather hang out here. It's more like an extended network of friends sharing information and learning from each other here.
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05-09-2012, 09:20 AM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: NC Triangle
Posts: 5,807
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It's been a couple of years since I dropped in on them (before finding e-r.org), but I recall getting a different vibe there versus here. I chalked it up to the different focus - the people at Bogleheads are into accumulating wealth (nothing wrong with that) and many are not retired, while I have gotten the feeling here that members are more concerned with "life-type" issues. I suppose E-R.org could also stand for "Enjoy Retirement . org"?
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05-09-2012, 03:33 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Columbia, SC
Posts: 1,132
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tmm99
but some of the people there are almost abrasive...they seem stressed out .
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It used to not be like that years ago. It was more of a likable group. I noticed it too.
Oh well, birds of a feather flock together...Looks like we roosted here...
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05-09-2012, 04:01 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Kansas City
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05-09-2012, 04:21 PM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Back woods of Fennario
Posts: 1,170
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sscritic knows his stuff........
(this is a friendlier place.....)
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05-09-2012, 05:45 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2006
Location: west coast, hi there!
Posts: 8,809
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Psst... I think many appreciate you here.
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05-09-2012, 06:12 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Portland, Oregon
Posts: 7,113
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Appreciate... no LOVE it.
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05-09-2012, 06:29 PM
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: On a hill in the Pine Barrens
Posts: 9,721
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One forum is tolerant, the other is intolerant.
One forum is progressive, the other is reactionary.
One forum censors dissent, the other has open-minded mods.
One thing about Buy and Hold is that once you get it, you really have no need to discuss it any longer. Buy. Hold. Rebalance. Repeat.
I prefer the Morningstar forums, as there are generally fewer posts. The interface is sub-par, but there are forums where you can discover and discuss subjects like tactical allocation without feeling as if you are in the Spanish Inquisition.
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05-09-2012, 06:51 PM
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#38
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Dryer sheet wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2012
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05-09-2012, 08:35 PM
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#39
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Give me a museum and I'll fill it. (Picasso) Give me a forum ...
Join Date: May 2006
Location: west coast, hi there!
Posts: 8,809
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05-10-2012, 03:13 AM
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Thinks s/he gets paid by the post
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: midwestern city
Posts: 4,061
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I have posted a couple of times only since I registered. So far so good
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brat
Appreciate... no LOVE it.
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