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Old 01-09-2015, 01:36 PM   #21
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Al , If this is for Jenny to sleep on you need to think bigger than a twin because pretty soon she will be bringing a companion to visit.
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I would say you need two beds. One for guests you want to stay, one for guests you want to have a short visit...

Only bring out the appropriate bed just before they get there.
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I would say you need two beds. One for guests you want to stay, one for guests you want to have a short visit...

Only bring out the appropriate bed just before they get there.
Maybe that could be accomplished with the basic cot/air mattress bed and a 2-3 inch foam topper. If you want guest to be short-term then no mattress topper is offered. If you want to encourage a longer stay then add the 'comfort' layer to the guest bed.
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If a deciding issue (probably not) is the plywood not fitting behind the door, you could always hinge it with a piano hinge and fold it open when you are setting it up.
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You mentioned making the plywood support shorter and narrower than the air mattress. Don't get too carried away with this or a person sitting on the edge (or a child standing near the edge) could have a pretty undignified ride to the floor. Definitely 3/4 inch plywood with additional support. And maybe put some felt pads on the tops of the supports in case you have 'restless' sleepers. Also you could run a strip of velcro tape top and bottom to prevent the mattress from shifting easily.
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Al , If this is for Jenny to sleep on you need to think bigger than a twin because pretty soon she will be bringing a companion to visit.
Or, maybe that 's why he wants to make the twin size (and a smallish one at that)
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I would say you need two beds. One for guests you want to stay, one for guests you want to have a short visit...

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DW and I have been discussing something along these lines. One bedroom for a son who now definitely on his own is has various things in it, and DW is considering clearing it our for a nice guest room. I said "be careful - we don't want it to be TOO nice, or else guests won't feel a need to leave..."
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Here's another variation of the murphy bed - bookshelf combination, where the whole assembly is built on a floor-level platform with wheels and rotates around a vertical axis. It doesn't meet your carpentry effort vs. cost test at all, but it is very clever.

Substituting your original idea of a plywood platform and an air mattress instead of a fancy murphy bed mechanism, you could get the functionality of the bed platform idea without giving up useful wall space.

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Al , If this is for Jenny to sleep on you need to think bigger than a twin because pretty soon she will be bringing a companion to visit.
Yes, quite right. But we have a queen in the guest room (and we don't let him out, ha ha). Plus we have a comfortable queen blow up mattress, so we're covered.
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Al, so what did you end up doing?
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Al, so what did you end up doing?
I will follow Sam's advice. I'll buy a twin air mattress and the folding cot that supports it. I'll wait until next time Jenny visits to buy it.

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