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Old 03-19-2008, 09:32 AM   #41
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If women are so independent today, why can't they kill their own bugs, open their own stuck jars, mow their own lawns or pump their own gas?
I do all these things (though I hired a lawn guy once I started pushing 60). Always have, even when I was married, since my husband was a sea-going man. (I learned to open stuck jars from my mother, by the way, who was born in 1909 and was married to a surgeon who had to spend countless hours at the hospital.)

What I don't do is car stuff, probably because my ex was the best amateur mechanic I have ever known, bar none. So, I got out of practice. It hasn't caused me any problems that a visit to the oil change place every three months and new tires once in a while can't cure. I bought a tire gauge but to be honest, I have never used it. The guys at the oil change place adjust the air in my tires, and occasionally if they forget Frank will feel motivated to do that for me too.

Some of the traditionally manly jobs are kind of fun. I bought a new shower massager for my guest bathroom on Sunday, and Frank offered to install it. I refused! After he dropped me off at my house, I got out my Teflon tape and had it installed in 15 minutes. It doesn't leak even one drop and works beautifully. I thought that was really fun to do.

On the other hand, I am losing the ability to do some of the traditionally feminine jobs. I will only spend so much time cooking for just me. I tend to use my George Foreman grill a lot, and just steam some veggies or whatever, rather than to actually do much cooking.

Housecleaning takes only a fraction of the time that it did thirty to fifty years ago, due to much more efficient and better equipment. I love my swiffers!
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Me, too, Want2retire. But I had to quit squishing bugs by slapping my hands down on them as it grossed my son out too much...hee! hee! As for pumping gas, mowing lawns and opening jars...well, I can and do do it all....just not when there is a male around to do it for me...ha! (We're not so stupid as we act!)
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On the other hand, I am losing the ability to do some of the traditionally feminine jobs. I will only spend so much time cooking for just me. I tend to use my George Foreman grill a lot, and just steam some veggies or whatever, rather than to actually do much cooking.

Housecleaning takes only a fraction of the time that it did thirty to fifty years ago, due to much more efficient and better equipment. I love my swiffers!
See, as you learn to like traditionally male things your housekeeping standards follow suit and become more like ours. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
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I've resisted as long as I can, but with over 40 posts and no real answer to the question I can't hold back any longer. The reason men can't load dishwashers is a simple training issue. You gals are apparently failing miserably at teaching basic skills to these guys.

Contrast that with the resounding success men have accomplished in training women. For example, the title of this thread indicates women are lousy at spatial relationships. Why? Because they have trouble with depth perception. Why? Because men have taught them that this...



...is nine inches.
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See, as you learn to like traditionally male things your housekeeping standards follow suit and become more like ours. Not that there is anything wrong with that...
Actually, there is more truth to that than you may think! My housekeeping right at this moment is so bad a bachelor could be living there. No clothes on the floor but there are dishes in the sink and my coffee table has stuff all over it that needs to be put away. Got to get it together soon.

Working is the PITS. Dreaming of ER a lot today...
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Why? Because they have trouble with depth perception. Why? Because men have taught them that this...

...is nine inches.
It isn't?

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Me, too, Want2retire. But I had to quit squishing bugs by slapping my hands down on them as it grossed my son out too much...hee! hee! As for pumping gas, mowing lawns and opening jars...well, I can and do do it all....just not when there is a male around to do it for me...ha! (We're not so stupid as we act!)
Ha!! So true. I was tempted to let Frank put in that shower massager, but I really wanted to do it myself.

I do tend to just hire someone for most things that I can't do. I am saving his desire to help for one task that I have for him, that requires his greatest asset - - genuine German engineering skill and precision. It's just epoxying something but it has to be perfectly straight and aligned. With my astigmatism, I don't have a prayer if I try it myself.
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Female. BTW, I read in a "green" advertising mag that it is actually more energy and water efficient to use a newer dishwasher than to wash by hands. (not sure if I believe)
I once took a basic knife skills class. The professional chef said this and I later asked if this was true or just an urban myth, he said that he noticed that knives in a dishwasher lose there edge quicker. So I hand wash mine. Serrated edges are different they work fine in a dishwasher.
Absolutely. She told me once "Eh, I don't cook, why would I wash dishes?" But her kids are almost out of the house (youngest is a 9th grader) so lemme know if you want an introduction...

I guess spouse and I can go guilt-free knife shopping now. Of course my preference would be to avoid needing a sharp knife in the first place.
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We also have a division of labor at our house which began, suspiciously, when the kids started coming. I did poop, pee and vomit. He did nosebleeds, flesh wounds, and fishing sinkers stuck in ears. I did emergency medical forms, cupcake baking, and spelling bee preparation. He did Little League, Nintendo repair, and boys haircuts. I did "you're a young woman now" stuff, he did the "you're a young man who wants to watch pornography with your friends" stuff. I took care of all female drama. He was the one who went to the police station to pick up the kid who rearranged the "Friday Fish Fry" sign to say "Friday Sh+t Fry". I ironed the graduation gowns, he paid for dinner. I helped them pack for college, he paid the tuition. When that was done, we both slammed the door!
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We also have a division of labor at our house which began, suspiciously, when the kids started coming. I did poop, pee and vomit. He did nosebleeds, flesh wounds, and fishing sinkers stuck in ears. I did emergency medical forms, cupcake baking, and spelling bee preparation. He did Little League, Nintendo repair, and boys haircuts. I did "you're a young woman now" stuff, he did the "you're a young man who wants to watch pornography with your friends" stuff. I took care of all female drama. He was the one who went to the police station to pick up the kid who rearranged the "Friday Fish Fry" sign to say "Friday Sh+t Fry". I ironed the graduation gowns, he paid for dinner. I helped them pack for college, he paid the tuition. When that was done, we both slammed the door!
LOL I don't think I've seen the jobs of both parents described so well in one paragraph.
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Shoe - well said, but how did your husband remove fishing sinkers from ears?
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Shoe - well said, but how did your husband remove fishing sinkers from ears?
Took up the slack, then set!

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If women are so independent today, why can't they kill their own bugs....
Reminds me of an event a while back - heard this blood-curdling scream from the living room, I thought she was seriously hurt, the house was on fire, we're being invaded, etc.

The problem was an ugly black spider. I'll grant that it was about the biggest, ugliest spider I've ever seen, but still - just a bug. So I'm the "hero" for stomping it.

I asked her later what she'd have done if I wasn't there, she said she'd have stomped on it.

Maybe some day I'll figure it out.
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Reminds me of an event a while back - heard this blood-curdling scream from the living room, I thought she was seriously hurt, the house was on fire, we're being invaded, etc.

The problem was an ugly black spider. I'll grant that it was about the biggest, ugliest spider I've ever seen, but still - just a bug. So I'm the "hero" for stomping it.

I asked her later what she'd have done if I wasn't there, she said she'd have stomped on it.

Maybe some day I'll figure it out.
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Ronstar my husband didn't actually remove the split-shot sinker in my son's ear, but he took care of the situation by calming the kid AND me who had visions of it becoming somehow imbedded in his developing brain. The surgeon actually got it out.
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Ronstar my husband didn't actually remove the split-shot sinker in my son's ear, but he took care of the situation by calming the kid AND me who had visions of it becoming somehow imbedded in his developing brain. The surgeon actually got it out.
I thought the fishing line was attached and your husband removed the sinker as if he had a fish on - like Ha said
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I do well in the kitchen by myself but I never seem to get the dishwasher packed to the gills the way DW does. It's always, "Why did you put that on the bottom rack, there won't be any room for this". Something you think but don't say, Well when I put that on the bottom rack the dishwasher was empty. :

Then there is, "Don't use that clean dishrag to wipe up the floor", or "Don't use that dirty towel to dry that pan".

Like my dad used to say, "If you want to see who wears the pants in the family, just look under my apron".
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