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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
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One thing I've been pondering is whether fatness, especially in children, comes from the food or the drink.*
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There was a story recently about a study done in Boston in which kids who drank lots of sodas were provided with non-calorie beverages. Turns out the kids started to lose weight...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060310/...diet_soda_dc_3
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03-21-2006, 11:25 PM
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Big debate on whether schools should allow soda machines on campus.
We had a water bubbler when I was a kid.
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Unfortunately, it's all about $$$ ... schools figured out they could pull in revenue from selling the stuff, as well as from any advertising the local bottler would be willing to spring for.
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03-22-2006, 07:00 AM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
Several posters have got it right. I went from 205 to 175 effortlessly by eliminating sugars (except for holidays/special occaisons), cutting out white flour (pasta/pizza/bread), and starchy foods. Voila. I feel better and have much more energy. No frequent heartburn either, unless I go off the wagon.
It's a choice folks. Do I miss chocolate doughnuts and french fries? Sure, but I like being 175lbs more than I miss those foods. Since 1970, sugar consumption per capita has almost trebled, while fat consumption has actually declined. Pretty easy to identify the dietary henchman causing obesity in the U.S.
A related thread bemoaned the rising health care costs and discussed various structural remedies to mitigate those increases. If people would adopt the above way of eating, health care costs would begin decreasing. Obesity is central to many degenerative diseases...heart disease, stroke, Type II diabetes, joint issues. The medical insurers understand this. I have an individual Blue/Cross of S.C. policy, and I would have been turned down if I weren't height/weight proportionate. People who make poor lifestyle choices should not be subsidized by those who make healthy choices, which is the way it is currently in most company sponsored group plans. The government has failed us also with its ridiculous "dietary pyramid" that advocates mega helpings of starchy foods.
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03-22-2006, 08:51 AM
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Maybe these girls (?) have the answer...........
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03-22-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
I think I know that one in the middle.
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03-22-2006, 10:15 AM
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I have to go hurl now. :P
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03-22-2006, 10:48 AM
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I think I know that one in the middle.
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As soon as I get back from where ever TH has gone, I have to ask:
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03-22-2006, 12:16 PM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
Roll 'em in flour... 
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03-22-2006, 01:05 PM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
(sigh) someone gave my dh a "movie" as a gag 50th bd gift and I think those two were in it.
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03-22-2006, 02:39 PM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
Like some of the others here, I tend to focus on the children.* It's easy to talk about personal responsibility when you're an adult with good habits.* But if you develop bad habits when you're a kid, those bad habits can become as hard to break as any addiction.
That's why we need to focus on keeping kids from developing these deadly habits of eating bad food and not exercising.* Once they're adults with good eating habits, they'll be more or less out of the woods.* Eating right and exercising is so much easier when it's simply what you're used to.*
The problem is, in order to develop good habits, kids need proper training and role models.* In a society where most parents are overweight, kids aren't getting the training they need.* (Anybody ever see a fat parent serving up fast food to a fat child?* Doesn't it make you want to just scream at that fat parent?)
And on top of it all, we've got multimillion dollar ad campaigns targeting kids to get them to drink more Coke and eat more Happy Meals.
So although I'm pretty libertarian about many things, I think we need to be a little more hands-on about the obesity problem in kids.* I don't know what the answer is.* But simply barking "personal responsibility" isn't going to help much when impressionable kids are being bombarded with reasons to eat more and exercise less.*
Fat parents pass their bad habits on to their kids, and it's hurting our society as a whole.
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03-22-2006, 02:41 PM
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As soon as I get back from where ever TH has gone, I have to ask:
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You mean there are only two? 
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03-22-2006, 02:57 PM
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I've just have to ask: do you think that photo is real? 
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03-22-2006, 03:47 PM
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And tie about 6' of 2x4 to your ass so you dont get pulled in...
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03-22-2006, 04:11 PM
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Help me find my car keys, and we'll drive out...
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03-23-2006, 09:47 AM
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Re: If You Are Fat, Whose Fault Is It?
Strategic responses to the ever dangerous "Do I look Fat" question:
"No, not to Stevie Wonder."
"Big time! That's why I'm sleeping with your best friend."
"Does this tie make me look stupid?"
"No hablo ingles."
"Yes, but it also makes you look like a pricey hooker, so things kinda balance
out."
"If I answer that question, then the terrorists have won."
"Okay, listen: What's important is that you not focus in a negative way on the
comparison I am about to make."
"Yes, but in my country obesity suggests prosperity."
"Let me jog around to your front and take a look."
"No, honey. But just to be safe, steer clear of one-legged sea captains."
"Whoa! A talking couch!!"
"May I consult the Iraqi Minister of Information (Bagdad Bob) before answering that?"
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03-23-2006, 10:06 AM
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Strategic responses to the ever dangerous "Do I look Fat" question:
"No, not to Stevie Wonder."
"Big time! That's why I'm sleeping with your best friend."
"Does this tie make me look stupid?"
"No hablo ingles."
"Yes, but it also makes you look like a pricey hooker, so things kinda balance
out."
"If I answer that question, then the terrorists have won."
"Okay, listen: What's important is that you not focus in a negative way on the
comparison I am about to make."
"Yes, but in my country obesity suggests prosperity."
"Let me jog around to your front and take a look."
"No, honey. But just to be safe, steer clear of one-legged sea captains."
"Whoa! A talking couch!!"
"May I consult the Iraqi Minister of Information (Bagdad* Bob) before answering that?"
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Hilarious. My favorite is "let me jog around to your front and take a look"... 
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