Ike......here we go again

Dawg54 · 09-05-2008, 04:36 PM

A guy on CNN just stated that one model has it headed anywhere between Mobile, AL and New Orleans. Can you imagine what kind of luck they would have getting the N.O.'s folks to evacuate again. Much too early to know where it is going to end up, but I'm keeping an eye on it.

Tropical Storm: 5 Day Forecast Map : Weather Underground

**Rich_in_Tampa** · 09-05-2008, 04:38 PM

Too soon to know, but yeah, we're dancing around like 2004. Hate to get jaded but you can see where it can happen. Tampa is due - we've been more than fortunate.

**Sarah in SC** · 09-05-2008, 04:46 PM

Tell me about it--Hanna is DUMPING rain on us right now. Not much wind but that is coming later tonight.

Notmuchlonger · 09-05-2008, 05:14 PM

Feel sorry for them folks

lazygood4nothinbum · 09-05-2008, 05:24 PM

yesterday it was pointed at us. as i've said, better to be aimed at early than late. regardless, the news has been off the wall. panic, andrew jr, panic, andrew the sequel, panic, panic, panic; aren't you glad we're here to keep you calm, says the newscaster.

i'm afraid to leave the house, not because of any real threat but because of the lines at the gas station, the supermarket, dare i say the words: home depot.

my original plan was to head down to the keys or naples but now that the forecasts are encircling florida there's really no where to run, no place to hide. latest forecast tracked it further south, now coming up the west coast, instead. likely we'll get at least t.s. if not hurricane winds here. good luck to whomever ike hits directly.

**Want2retire** · 09-06-2008, 01:34 PM

Lazy and Rich, take care and stay safe! We'll be hoping for the best for both of you and for others in or near Ike's path.

Sarah, I have been thinking about you every time I hear about Hanna, and hoping that this storm leaves you alone!! I heard on the radio that you got a LOT of rain so I hope you are not in a flood prone neighborhood.

I could not find any more details about Hanna or post until now, because of internet access. Yesterday we drove for over 12 hours to get back home to New Orleans. When I finally arrived at my house, I found that I had power after all, which I did not expect!! Wahoo.

With luck like that, I hardly have reason to complain but will just mention in passing that I have no cable so no internet access or TV. It's just me and that radio, y'know.

Frank has cable, so I am briefly borrowing his to check the storms and post.

When I came back, I found that a huge branch spanning my entire back yard had been blown off my tree, knocking down and destroying my 6' wooden fence; my shutters were torn off; and a small diameter gas line going to the gas lantern at my front doorway had apparently been hit by flying debris, since it was off and we smelled gas around the corner near the valve (so Frank shut it off, and this appears to have fixed the problem). But, the rest of my community appears to be almost unchanged. Lights and signs for businesses were on and working, as were most stop lights and street lights, and downed power lines have been cleaned up. Our sewer system is now back to normal, so we can shower, flush, and wash clothes. We even had dinner out at a restaurant. What a different experience from Katrina, and what a relief.

Today, the NHC 5-day trajectory for Ike has us as the target once again. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...large#contents
Hopefully this will come to nothing as well. I think many people here are tired of evacuating, broke from the last evacuation, and disgusted with the idea of evacuating yet again, and that is a dangerous state of affairs for us.

As for me, I unloaded my car but left everything by the door in case we have to leave again for Ike.

lazygood4nothinbum · 09-06-2008, 02:18 PM

thanx. we'll be ok. hope you will too. boy would that suck if you had to evaculate twice in such a short time.

found these cool animated sites. yer not gonna like the current look of the first one.

GFS Animated Hurricane Caribbean Model -- From myFoxHurricane.com

oh crap. second one changed since last i saw. you won't like this one either.

Tropical Group TC Model Generation Page

(click submit on gfs model)

**Want2retire** · 09-06-2008, 02:42 PM

Thanks, Lazy. Neither of those are too reassuring!

But, you know how it is. A trajectory five days out could very well shift. So, I am attempting to be prepared but nonchalant. Now, if only my stomach would settle down.

**Rich_in_Tampa** · 09-06-2008, 02:54 PM

<sigh> Still time for it to change its course, for better or worse. Folks on the Gulf Coast remember Charlie, creeping up the coast to Tampa Bay; lots of people evacuated to Orlando. Charlie made a sudden eastward turn, took out Port Charlotte, and slammed Orlando the next day.

W2R - wise to keep yourself psychologically and logistically ready for another unscheduled vacation, but lets hope it shuts down drastically over Cuba.

**Want2retire** · 09-06-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa

<sigh> Still time for it to change its course, for better or worse. Folks on the Gulf Coast remember Charlie, creeping up the coast to Tampa Bay; lots of people evacuated to Orlando. Charlie made a sudden eastward turn, took out Port Charlotte, and slammed Orlando the next day.

Exactly. Hurricane trajectory prediction is not an exact science, and intensity prediction is worse. But hopefully, after Charlie we will focus on the NHC cone rather than the line at its center, and realize that even the cone can shift. Gustav did not really hit New Orleans but came ashore to the southwest. That is why Baton Rouge (the most usual evacuation destination for New Orleanians) was hit so much harder than New Orleans this time. My suburb (Metairie) seems nearly unaffected by Gustav.

Well, except for my back yard.

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Originally Posted by Rich_in_Tampa

W2R - wise to keep yourself psychologically and logistically ready for another unscheduled vacation, but lets hope it shuts down drastically over Cuba.

Amen to that!! I'd be really happy if this one would just dissipate.

socca · 09-06-2008, 05:42 PM

I've been admiring Ike for quite some time - very tightly organized.

The 'loop' satellite views on this page are handy: Latest Satellite Imagery

It would be nice if Ike forgets to turn north at Cuba and just heads straight for Mexico.

lazygood4nothinbum · 09-06-2008, 06:24 PM

talking tvweatherhead earlier today speculated another high could develop just before it hits norleans to send it west to texas instead. this is like playing hot potato with a hurricane. meanwhile, they sent their helicopter to photograph the lines at miami area gas stations. some stations already out of gas & it ain't even coming here. idiots. (a cousin of mine tells me she braved the supermarket last night for fresh fruit, never again. says it was a madhouse.)

Htown Harry · 09-10-2008, 07:32 AM

Well, it's now Texas' turn to get nervous. In the last 24 hours the forecasts have converged on a likely landfall on the central Texas coast.

The storm is expected to take a big hook to the right sometime around the time of landfall on Friday night.

Looks like it's going to be rainy weekend here in Houston, regardless of exactly where it hits. (sigh)

The TV news is beginning to lead with Ike stories. The first voluntary evacuation in this area (near Freeport) was announced this morning.

No high school football games have cancelled yet, though.

lazygood4nothinbum · 09-10-2008, 07:43 AM

i could do a maneuver like that in my little convertible but that looks like an awfully sharp turn for such a big system to make on saturday. their 3-day projections are often close to target but i don't recall ever seeing an almost 90 degree turn at landfall. i wouldn't be surprised to see that solid black line moving clockwise over the next day or two, closing in on the northern edge of the current cone of death.

**Rich_in_Tampa** · 09-10-2008, 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazygood4nothinbum

that looks like an awfully sharp turn for such a big system to make on saturday. their 3-day projections are often close to target but i don't recall ever seeing an almost 90 degree turn at landfall.

Charlie, 2004?

lazygood4nothinbum · 09-10-2008, 07:52 AM

not even. that punta gorda hit was just a wobble. the general track was a bit of a boomerang but actually a pretty smooth

then again maybe the same just turned some.

looking for histories of 5 & 3-day tracking cones. don't find yet.

looks like they tend to turn like this around texas...

ok, not finding what i'm looking for but lots of other cool stuff. check this out

from livescience.com " the eye of Hurricane Ivan at center, partially framed by solar array panels on the International Space Station."

REWahoo · 09-10-2008, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Htown Harry

No high school football games have cancelled yet, though.

No, but some have been rescheduled: Hurricane Ike Changes HS Football Games - San Antonio

Dawg54 · 09-10-2008, 07:58 AM

Maybe Ike will wash away some of the chiggers in Texas.

Rustic23 · 09-10-2008, 08:21 AM

Not a chance, the only thing a chigger likes more than hot dry weather is hot wet weather!

09-05-2008, 04:36 PM	#1
Dawg54 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,170	Ike......here we go again A guy on CNN just stated that one model has it headed anywhere between Mobile, AL and New Orleans. Can you imagine what kind of luck they would have getting the N.O.'s folks to evacuate again. Much too early to know where it is going to end up, but I'm keeping an eye on it. Tropical Storm: 5 Day Forecast Map : Weather Underground __________________ The born loser.

09-05-2008, 04:38 PM	#2
Rich_in_Tampa Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,869	Too soon to know, but yeah, we're dancing around like 2004. Hate to get jaded but you can see where it can happen. Tampa is due - we've been more than fortunate. __________________ Rich Tampa, FL (10% retired) As if you didn't know..If the above message happens to contain medical content, it's NOT intended as advice, and may not be accurate, applicable or sufficient. Don't rely on it for any medical purpose whatsoever. Consult your own doctor for all medical advice.

09-05-2008, 04:46 PM	#3
Sarah in SC Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,688	Tell me about it--Hanna is DUMPING rain on us right now. Not much wind but that is coming later tonight. __________________ "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain DINKS, 37 and 45, plan for his ER at 50, mine few yrs later.

09-05-2008, 05:14 PM	#4
Notmuchlonger Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,893	Feel sorry for them folks __________________ He who will not economize will have to agonize

09-05-2008, 05:24 PM	#5
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,744	yesterday it was pointed at us. as i've said, better to be aimed at early than late. regardless, the news has been off the wall. panic, andrew jr, panic, andrew the sequel, panic, panic, panic; aren't you glad we're here to keep you calm, says the newscaster. i'm afraid to leave the house, not because of any real threat but because of the lines at the gas station, the supermarket, dare i say the words: home depot. my original plan was to head down to the keys or naples but now that the forecasts are encircling florida there's really no where to run, no place to hide. latest forecast tracked it further south, now coming up the west coast, instead. likely we'll get at least t.s. if not hurricane winds here. good luck to whomever ike hits directly. __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

09-06-2008, 01:34 PM	#6
Want2retire Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 6,021	Lazy and Rich, take care and stay safe! We'll be hoping for the best for both of you and for others in or near Ike's path. Sarah, I have been thinking about you every time I hear about Hanna, and hoping that this storm leaves you alone!! I heard on the radio that you got a LOT of rain so I hope you are not in a flood prone neighborhood. I could not find any more details about Hanna or post until now, because of internet access. Yesterday we drove for over 12 hours to get back home to New Orleans. When I finally arrived at my house, I found that I had power after all, which I did not expect!! Wahoo. With luck like that, I hardly have reason to complain but will just mention in passing that I have no cable so no internet access or TV. It's just me and that radio, y'know. Frank has cable, so I am briefly borrowing his to check the storms and post. When I came back, I found that a huge branch spanning my entire back yard had been blown off my tree, knocking down and destroying my 6' wooden fence; my shutters were torn off; and a small diameter gas line going to the gas lantern at my front doorway had apparently been hit by flying debris, since it was off and we smelled gas around the corner near the valve (so Frank shut it off, and this appears to have fixed the problem). But, the rest of my community appears to be almost unchanged. Lights and signs for businesses were on and working, as were most stop lights and street lights, and downed power lines have been cleaned up. Our sewer system is now back to normal, so we can shower, flush, and wash clothes. We even had dinner out at a restaurant. What a different experience from Katrina, and what a relief. Today, the NHC 5-day trajectory for Ike has us as the target once again. http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/grap...large#contents Hopefully this will come to nothing as well. I think many people here are tired of evacuating, broke from the last evacuation, and disgusted with the idea of evacuating yet again, and that is a dangerous state of affairs for us. As for me, I unloaded my car but left everything by the door in case we have to leave again for Ike. __________________ Dreaming of retirement.... " - - my greatest skill has been to want but little - - " (Henry David Thoreau, in Walden) Last edited by Want2retire; 09-06-2008 at 02:15 PM. Reason: adding URL

09-06-2008, 02:18 PM	#7
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,744	thanx. we'll be ok. hope you will too. boy would that suck if you had to evaculate twice in such a short time. found these cool animated sites. yer not gonna like the current look of the first one. GFS Animated Hurricane Caribbean Model -- From myFoxHurricane.com oh crap. second one changed since last i saw. you won't like this one either. Tropical Group TC Model Generation Page (click submit on gfs model) __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

09-06-2008, 02:42 PM	#8
Want2retire Moderator Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New Orleans Posts: 6,021	Thanks, Lazy. Neither of those are too reassuring! But, you know how it is. A trajectory five days out could very well shift. So, I am attempting to be prepared but nonchalant. Now, if only my stomach would settle down. __________________ Dreaming of retirement.... " - - my greatest skill has been to want but little - - " (Henry David Thoreau, in Walden)

09-06-2008, 02:54 PM	#9
Rich_in_Tampa Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 5,869	<sigh> Still time for it to change its course, for better or worse. Folks on the Gulf Coast remember Charlie, creeping up the coast to Tampa Bay; lots of people evacuated to Orlando. Charlie made a sudden eastward turn, took out Port Charlotte, and slammed Orlando the next day. W2R - wise to keep yourself psychologically and logistically ready for another unscheduled vacation, but lets hope it shuts down drastically over Cuba. __________________ Rich Tampa, FL (10% retired) As if you didn't know..If the above message happens to contain medical content, it's NOT intended as advice, and may not be accurate, applicable or sufficient. Don't rely on it for any medical purpose whatsoever. Consult your own doctor for all medical advice.

09-06-2008, 05:42 PM	#11
socca Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 338	I've been admiring Ike for quite some time - very tightly organized. The 'loop' satellite views on this page are handy: Latest Satellite Imagery It would be nice if Ike forgets to turn north at Cuba and just heads straight for Mexico.

09-06-2008, 06:24 PM	#12
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,744	talking tvweatherhead earlier today speculated another high could develop just before it hits norleans to send it west to texas instead. this is like playing hot potato with a hurricane. meanwhile, they sent their helicopter to photograph the lines at miami area gas stations. some stations already out of gas & it ain't even coming here. idiots. (a cousin of mine tells me she braved the supermarket last night for fresh fruit, never again. says it was a madhouse.) __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

09-10-2008, 07:32 AM	#13
Htown Harry Recycles dryer sheets Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 197	Well, it's now Texas' turn to get nervous. In the last 24 hours the forecasts have converged on a likely landfall on the central Texas coast. The storm is expected to take a big hook to the right sometime around the time of landfall on Friday night. Looks like it's going to be rainy weekend here in Houston, regardless of exactly where it hits. (sigh) The TV news is beginning to lead with Ike stories. The first voluntary evacuation in this area (near Freeport) was announced this morning. No high school football games have cancelled yet, though.

09-10-2008, 07:43 AM	#14
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,744	i could do a maneuver like that in my little convertible but that looks like an awfully sharp turn for such a big system to make on saturday. their 3-day projections are often close to target but i don't recall ever seeing an almost 90 degree turn at landfall. i wouldn't be surprised to see that solid black line moving clockwise over the next day or two, closing in on the northern edge of the current cone of death. __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

09-10-2008, 07:52 AM	#16
lazygood4nothinbum Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 3,744	not even. that punta gorda hit was just a wobble. the general track was a bit of a boomerang but actually a pretty smooth then again maybe the same just turned some. looking for histories of 5 & 3-day tracking cones. don't find yet. looks like they tend to turn like this around texas... ok, not finding what i'm looking for but lots of other cool stuff. check this out from livescience.com " the eye of Hurricane Ivan at center, partially framed by solar array panels on the International Space Station." __________________ "off with their heads"~~dr. joseph-ignace guillotin "life should begin with age and its privileges and accumulations, and end with youth and its capacity to splendidly enjoy such advantages."~~mark twain - letter to edward kimmitt 1901

09-10-2008, 07:58 AM	#18
Dawg54 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mississippi Posts: 3,170	Maybe Ike will wash away some of the chiggers in Texas. __________________ The born loser.

09-10-2008, 08:21 AM	#19
Rustic23 Thinks s/he gets paid by the post Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lake Livingston, Tx Posts: 1,014	Not a chance, the only thing a chigger likes more than hot dry weather is hot wet weather!