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Old 05-17-2006, 08:12 PM   #1
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Just curious how anyone else sees the Iran situation.*

It seems that even the other Arab gulf countries are rather concerned with Iran's motives.
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:35 PM   #2
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They want the "Bomb". Perhaps they will recieve it.
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They want the "Bomb". Perhaps they will recieve it.
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They are part of the "Axis of Evil" so obviously they want the bomb.
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I'm gonna have to go with Scott Adams' weasel detector on this one...

http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_d...ans_nukes.html
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No brainer.
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I'm gonna have to go with Scott Adams' weasel detector on this one...
Thanks for the link, Nords.

That is an interesting take on the situation.* *I could almost buy into what he is saying, but the part about the US/West and Iran being buds in the next five years is going out there on a twig.* *I somehow cannot picture in my mind Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sitting down and being "chummy" with the next US president.
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I somehow cannot picture in my mind Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sitting down and being "chummy" with the next US president.
But I can!!

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Eh, I think this is all about internal Iranian politics, not nuclear weapons. The Iranian president was not ruling from a position of strength, so he started waving sabres and pissing off the world community to galvanize Iranians internally vs. an external "enemy." There is no way we will invade, since oil would top $100 a barrel faster than you can say "recession", and we don't have themilitary capacity anyway. I don't think Iran actually has the capability to make nukes in the next 5 to 10 years, so its a moot point anyway. And in the meantime, the Iranian pres has scared his people into rallying behind him.

Sounds awfully familiar...
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Then again, we did paint them (appropriately so) as one of the "axis of evil" partners.

We sort of have this tendency of moving in a carrier group and bombing the pejuniper juice out of said "evildoers" until they can no longer wage war.

I think theres only one or two things that can give a carrier group a bad day. A nuke is one of them.
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Then again, we did paint them (appropriately so) as one of the "axis of evil" partners.

We sort of have this tendency of moving in a carrier group and bombing the pejuniper juice out of said "evildoers" until they can no longer wage war.

I think theres only one or two things that can give a carrier group a bad day.* A nuke is one of them.
Why nuke a carrier when you can shut off the flow of crude to China and close the Straits of Hormuz?
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Thats the other thing.
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The Iranian president was not ruling from a position of strength, so he started waving sabres and pissing off the world community to galvanize Iranians internally vs. an external "enemy."
So I understand that you've switched over to the neocon definition of the "world community"? It doesn't look like most of the countries in the world are terribly upset, mostly just the U.S., Israel, etc.
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Oh, and for people who were utterly convinced that the U.S. and USSR with nukes meant certain destruction and that we had to disarm to avoid that, people seem to be awfully blase about a "mystical" Islamic terror state bent on committing genocide acquiring nukes.

Five to ten years, eh? What are we waiting for, a New York-sized crater?
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So I understand that you've switched over to the neocon definition of the "world community"? It doesn't look like most of the countries in the world are terribly upset, mostly just the U.S., Israel, etc.
Nah. I think the EU is getting pissed, since Iran keeps slapping away their offers of a compromise. I can't imagine that China and Russia are real thrilled at the hornet's nest that Iran has shot BBs at either.
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Nah. I think the EU is getting pissed, since Iran keeps slapping away their offers of a compromise. I can't imagine that China and Russia are real thrilled at the hornet's nest that Iran has shot BBs at either.
I don't think I'm really convinced... I mean, Europe keeps offering up whatever Iran asks for and more, even though I guess they both know that it's just pointless talk that will never amount to anything, while Iran works away on their nukes. And China and Russia really don't seem upset about Iran's acting up, aren't they still doing their all to prop up the Iranian nutjobs? I think Russia is still even building Iranian nuke facilities, which they would surely stop if they didn't like what Iran was doing.

It looks to me like the "world community" (the UN types) can be divided into wholeheartedly supporting the Iran crazies, being indifferent but going along with Iran for the oil, and playing along with the anti-Iranian-nukes side but not really meaning it, or at the least not caring much either way....
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Maybe. My suspicion is that the Iranians hold all the cards in this game and they know it. At least at this point, nobody is quite willing to upset the apple cart over what they have done. I would be busy ignoring the whole thing if we had somebody (anybody) else in office here.
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I dont buy the whole mess our government is feeding us.

Weapons of Mass Destruction, anyone?

Maybe WMD in a country with lots of oil and a crazy leader?

The Us has to lead the way into said country for the safety of the world?


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Venezuela's a heck of a lot closer, and we can drive there!
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