Isolating Iran Funny

[dumpster56]

I find it interesting that we want the world to isolate Iran but the world BUYS THEIR OIL!!

Maybe we should not have any nation BUY THEIR OIL??

[Patrick]

Sounds good to me! OK, everybody park your SUVs and buy hybrids!

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by Patrick Sounds good to me! OK, everybody park your SUVs and buy hybrids!

America does not import any oil from Iran. Funny though if the world shut out Iranian oil yes the autos would need to be parked.

[jeff2006]

I don't think that we're in charge of what other nations buy . . .

[bosco]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 I find it interesting that we want the world to isolate Iran but the world BUYS THEIR OIL!! Maybe we should not have any nation BUY THEIR OIL??

maybe every nation has the right to decide that themselves....maybe "we" don't have the right to "not have" any nation buy another nation's oil.

I realize this is a difficult concept...

in a buyer's market like the energy market is, lotsa luck convincing people not to buy it. They may SAY they won't....

I have a question for those who know a thing or 2 about international law. I do not mean it rhetorically--I really would like to know.

What is the basis for telling Iran they may not have nukes? Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to have nukes any more than the next guy. I'm just wondering what the legal basis might be for a supposedly sovereign nation being told they may not develop and possess weapons.

I'm all in favor of economic and other pressures to discourage them. But I guess I'd like to understand why Iran may not have nukes but Israel can.

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by bosco maybe every nation has the right to decide that themselves....maybe "we" don't have the right to "not have" any nation buy another nation's oil. I realize this is a difficult concept... in a buyer's market like the energy market is, lotsa luck convincing people not to buy it. They may SAY they won't.... I have a question for those who know a thing or 2 about international law. I do not mean it rhetorically--I really would like to know. What is the basis for telling Iran they may not have nukes? Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to have nukes any more than the next guy. I'm just wondering what the legal basis might be for a supposedly sovereign nation being told they may not develop and possess weapons. I'm all in favor of economic and other pressures to discourage them. But I guess I'd like to understand why Iran may not have nukes but Israel can.

When was the last time a jew strapped dynamite to his or her belly and pulled the rip cord?? Arabs, Muslims??

Interesting times we now live in.

[jeff2006]

Good grief, Newguy! Where are you going with your recent threads?

[Patrick]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 America does not import any oil from Iran. Funny though if the world shut out Iranian oil yes the autos would need to be parked.

Who said anything about America?

[Patrick]

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Originally Posted by bosco maybe every nation has the right to decide that themselves....maybe "we" don't have the right to "not have" any nation buy another nation's oil. I realize this is a difficult concept... in a buyer's market like the energy market is, lotsa luck convincing people not to buy it. They may SAY they won't.... I have a question for those who know a thing or 2 about international law. I do not mean it rhetorically--I really would like to know. What is the basis for telling Iran they may not have nukes? Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to have nukes any more than the next guy. I'm just wondering what the legal basis might be for a supposedly sovereign nation being told they may not develop and possess weapons. I'm all in favor of economic and other pressures to discourage them. But I guess I'd like to understand why Iran may not have nukes but Israel can.

Because they want to kill anyone who's not Muslim.

Read this: http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by jeff2006 Good grief, Newguy! Where are you going with your recent threads?

Hey I am stuck here in NJ until dec 22, living with relatives, I am getting weird, but then again maybe I need to start a blog since I gotta feeling Nords is getting sick of my posts. Oh well I keep forgetting that these forums are private and many do not want my slant.

I better shut up.

[jeff2006]

Hang in there -- you'll be free of New Jersey before you know it! Best regards -- jeff

[MasterBlaster]

Didn't president Carter impose an Iranian oil freeze so that the US could not purchase Iranian Oil ?

Isn't that freeze still on ??

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by MasterBlaster Didn't president Carter impose an Iranian oil freeze so that the US could not purchase Iranian Oil ? Isn't that freeze still on ??

We purchase no oil from Iran but their oil on the market makes it so the market is running at peak, take the iranian oil off the market and we have a world wide shortage that would make the gas lines of the 70s look tame.

[BigMoneyJim]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 When was the last time a jew strapped dynamite to his or her belly and pulled the rip cord?? Arabs, Muslims?? Interesting times we now live in.

Mass violence and suicide violence aren't unique to Arabs or Muslims. Jews have machine-gunned down worshipers at mosques, a jew killed Yitzhak Rabin who was making progress on Israeli-Palestinian peace. Christians did some ethnic cleansing back in Serbia I think it was. Just a few examples.

Personally I think the suicide bomb tactic is a function of power. Palestinians, for example, have little hope of mounting a conventional military offensive against Israel. So a suicide bomber tactic is more effective and lower loss for them than a military-on-military assault.

[bpp]

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Originally Posted by bosco What is the basis for telling Iran they may not have nukes? Don't get me wrong, I don't want them to have nukes any more than the next guy. I'm just wondering what the legal basis might be for a supposedly sovereign nation being told they may not develop and possess weapons.

I have to admit that I have the same question as Bosco.

Stuff like this:

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When was the last time a jew strapped dynamite to his or her belly and pulled the rip cord?? Arabs, Muslims??

and this:

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Because they want to kill anyone who's not Muslim.

does not answer the legal question.

[Patrick]

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Originally Posted by bpp I have to admit that I have the same question as Bosco. Stuff like this:and this:do not answer to the legal question.

You're right. I suppose it's the bigger stick theory: He who has the bigger stick gets to make the rules. (Doesn't necessarily make it "legal" however).

But perhaps we should also ask if we have a moral basis to do so. Do we have a moral obligation to prevent our people from being annihilated by our enemies?

We certainly have a strategic need to do so.

[astromeria]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 Hey I am stuck here in NJ until dec 22, living with relatives, I am getting weird,

I've been defending you on that basis, m'dear

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Originally Posted by newguy888 but then again maybe I need to start a blog I better shut up.

Good idea...I may even read it

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by astromeria I've been defending you on that basis, m'dear Good idea...I may even read it

Thanks astro

Sometimes i press the wrong button.

It is fine to call me on the carpet when i act up.

You know working in the hood for 30+ years can make one crazy.

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 You know working in the hood for 30+ years can make one crazy.

Clearly

edited to add wink to avoid any misunderstanding.

[Nords]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 I gotta feeling Nords is getting sick of my posts.

You're right-- what point are you trying to make?

I can see an occasional cocktail-hour post but you show up, fling a few hand grenades, and race off to the next topic...