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Old 09-23-2011, 08:13 PM   #2781
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Find it funny that physicists postulate laws for nature, then discover that nature (Physics comes ultimately from Greek phúsis ‘nature' ) does not obey man-made laws. Sucks, does it not?
No, no! It's fascinating.

Scientists observe, and develop testable hypotheses to describe what they see. When they develop a simple explanation that describes a very wide range of phenomena, and can be used to make testable predictions of how things behave in the real world, they have a good theory.

Centuries ago, Newton developed his laws of motion. These work very well, letting us engineer all sorts of machines, launch spacecraft, build safe cars, and so forth. Ah, but when we make very sensitive measurements, or deal with extreme conditions of speed, gravity, or the realm of the very small, Newtons Laws are imprecise. That's where special and general relativity come into play. Einstein gave us a better theory, that matched Newton's results under normal conditions, but gave us better results out at the extreme limits.

Now we have an experimental result that is unexpected by our current understanding of physics. If there aren't problems found in the experiment, and this is a reproducible result, then there is something new to learn.

Or we could just be all cynical and call it a scheme by relativistic particle physicists to maintain full employment... :-)
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Old 09-23-2011, 08:19 PM   #2782
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I think it is a scheme by the relativistic particles to pull a fast one on the physicists who have been bothering them, shooting them around in cyclotrons and generally smashing them into each other at all hours of the day and night. Nature has a practical joke sense of humor.
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No, no! It's fascinating.

Scientists observe, and develop testable hypotheses to describe what they see. When they develop a simple explanation that describes a very wide range of phenomena, and can be used to make testable predictions of how things behave in the real world, they have a good theory.


---Yes it is fascinating, and very true about theorems and observations.


Centuries ago, Newton developed his laws of motion.

---Huston we have a problem. Newton may have developed laws of motion. I doubt very seriously that any motion or inanimate object or process is aware of or cares about laws. Nature does its thing regardless of Physicists hieroglyphics or reams of roman numerals. Agree that Newton's discoveries and postulates have very good predictive value.

These work very well, letting us engineer all sorts of machines, launch spacecraft, build safe cars, and so forth. Ah, but when we make very sensitive measurements, or deal with extreme conditions of speed, gravity, or the realm of the very small, Newtons Laws are imprecise. That's where special and general relativity come into play. Einstein gave us a better theory, that matched Newton's results under normal conditions, but gave us better results out at the extreme limits.

Now we have an experimental result that is unexpected by our current understanding of physics. If there aren't problems found in the experiment, and this is a reproducible result, then there is something new to learn.

Or we could just be all cynical and call it a scheme by relativistic particle physicists to maintain full employment... :-)
Once in the realm of particle physics and smashing them little things at high levels of acceleration, Heisenberg seems to rule the day with what can be known and why.

To me it seems like smashing things together in colliders is more akin to learning music by dropping pianos from the fifth floor window. Notes will be produced, a bit lacking in melody and harmony.

Still it is fascinating to see science progress.

Yet the experimenters need to be reminded not to take themselves and their theorems too seriously. After all nature and its processes, at macro, micro, nano and sub-atomic levels existed long before physicists and will be around long after all that is known by humans is extinct along with those who know that they know.

Very curious about the latest measurements, if they are repeatable. Time and lots of $$$$ will tell.
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Yet the experimenters need to be reminded not to take themselves and their theorems too seriously. After all nature and its processes, at macro, micro, nano and sub-atomic levels existed long before physicists and will be around long after all that is known by humans is extinct along with those who know that they know.
Very curious about the latest measurements, if they are repeatable. Time and lots of $$$$ will tell.
No worries about taking things seriously; xkcd is on the job:
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A business man got on an elevator. When he entered, there was a blonde inside who greeted him with a bright, 'T-G-I-F.'
He smiled at her and replied, 'S-H-I-T.'
The blonde was trying to keep it friendly, so she smiled her biggest smile, and said as sweetly as possibly, 'T-G-I-F.'
The man smiled back to her and once again, said, 'S-H-I-T.'
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The man answered, ''S-H-I-T' means 'Sorry, Honey, It's Thursday' !
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The Banana Test

There is a very, very tall coconut tree and there are 4 animals,

A Lion , A Chimp , A Giraffe ,
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A Squirrel

They decide to compete to see who is the fastest to get a banana off the tree.

Who do you guess will win?

Your answer will reflect your personality.

So think carefully . . ..
Try and answer within 30 seconds. Got your answer?

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Lion = you're dull.
Chimpanzee = you're dense.
Giraffe = you're a complete moron.
Squirrel = you're hopeless.
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A COCONUT TREE DOESN'T HAVE BANANAS.

Obviously you're stressed and overworked.
You should take some time off and relax,
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Lion = you're dull.
Chimpanzee = you're dense.
Giraffe = you're a complete moron.
Squirrel = you're hopeless.
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A COCONUT TREE DOESN'T HAVE BANANAS.

Obviously you're stressed and overworked.
You should take some time off and relax,
Doesn't matter. The lion is always going to win, no matter what kind of tree it is. I may be dull, but I'm full.
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Birds of a feather flock together . . . .and then poop on your car.

A penny saved is a government oversight.

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but does it belong under Funny Joke Thursday, FIRE & Money or Politics (or all of the above?):

A Letter from Goldman Sachs « Borowitz Report
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That letter from Goldman is priceless. I like the idea of the Rage Fund already!
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2. If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.
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3. Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But then I repeat myself.
-- Mark Twain


4. I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
-- Winston Churchill


5. A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
-- George Bernard Shaw


6. A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.
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7. Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
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8. Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.
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10. Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else.
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11. Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
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12. I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.
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13. If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free!
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14. In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
-- Voltaire (1764)


15. Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you!
-- Pericles (430 B.C.)


16. No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
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17. Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.
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18. The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.
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19. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
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20. The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin.
-- Mark Twain


21. The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.
-- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)


22. There is no distinctly Native American criminal class...save Congress. -- Mark Twain



23. What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the
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2. What one person receives without working for...another person
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3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.



4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.



5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to
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I was talking to a good looking young woman the other day, and she asked me if I prefer legs or breasts. I told her what I really like, and now I can't eat at KFC anymore.
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I was talking to a good looking young woman the other day, and she asked me if I prefer legs or breasts. I told her what I really like, and now I can't eat at KFC anymore.
Can you have her to go?
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Ten years ago, Steve Jobs was alive, Bob Hope was alive and Johnny Cash was alive.

Now we’re outta jobs, outta hope and outta cash.
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Four guys are driving across country together: one from
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York.

A short way down the road, the man from Idaho starts to pull
potatoes from his bag and throws them out the window.

The man from Iowa turns to him and asks, "What the heck are
you doing?"

The man from Idaho says, "We have so many of these things in
Idaho they're lying around on the ground. I'm sick of
looking at them!"

A few miles down the road, the man from Nebraska begins
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The man from Florida asks, "What are you doing that for?"

The Nebraskan replies, "We have so many of these things in
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Inspired by the others, the man from Florida opens the car
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