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Old 05-15-2009, 11:35 AM   #1
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Jeep Sale!

I'll probably wait a year or so but have been thinking about getting a SUV or Crossover.

I emailed a few Jeep dealerships in my area that are going under and a couple quoted the Patriot at ~$13,500. Of course I'd be hesitant to buy a Jeep under the current circumstances but if I could get one for around $12,000 that would be tempting.
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:37 PM   #2
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Of course I'd be hesitant to buy a Jeep under the current circumstances
If I had a local mechanic I trusted to work on Jeeps, I wouldn't be too concerned (assuming I was otherwise in the market for a Jeep at the right price). I really don't expect to see the market for parts completely evaporate. My biggest concern would be, where is the closest dealership that is NOT going under if I need warranty work performed?

Most Jeeps I've seen have had fairly terrible reliability ratings from Consumer Reports, and even though I think they are somewhat biased against American car makers, these bad results go way beyond a moderate bias in most cases.
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Most Jeeps I've seen have had fairly terrible reliability ratings from Consumer Reports, and even though I think they are somewhat biased against American car makers, these bad results go way beyond a moderate bias in most cases.
Yep, Chrystler is at the bottom as far as reliability. Surprisingly though the Patriot rates Very Good in consumer reports for predicted reliability. The 07 and 08 models got reliability ratings of excellent for all categories except in 2 categories where the rating was very good.

Maybe I'll check one out tomorrow just for fun. I've never been in a Patriot but rode in a Compass and the interior seemed pretty cheap. Another knock on them is the anemic engine.
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Yep, Chrystler is at the bottom as far as reliability. Surprisingly though the Patriot rates Very Good in consumer reports for predicted reliability. The 07 and 08 models got reliability ratings of excellent for all categories except in 2 categories where the rating was very good.

Maybe I'll check one out tomorrow just for fun. I've never been in a Patriot but rode in a Compass and the interior seemed pretty cheap. Another knock on them is the anemic engine.
Jeep has the best reliability of the Chrysler lines. Plus, there are LOTS of independent shops that work on them all the time.

Was the $12,000 for a NEw or used Jeep? That sounds very low for a new one......
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Plus, there are LOTS of independent shops that work on them all the time.
True, but while the vehicle is under warranty, you usually have to take it to a dealer for service. If it starts acting up, you may not want to take it 80 miles from home to the nearest dealer because the three that were closer to you all closed up.
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Most Jeeps I've seen have had fairly terrible reliability ratings from Consumer Reports, and even though I think they are somewhat biased against American car makers, these bad results go way beyond a moderate bias in most cases.
I do like CR, however their car survey is not a proper statistical survey.
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True, but while the vehicle is under warranty, you usually have to take it to a dealer for service. If it starts acting up, you may not want to take it 80 miles from home to the nearest dealer because the three that were closer to you all closed up.

Good point- and their high-margin pickup truck sales will really suffer in many rural areas if they can't get local service support. What rancher will buy a Dodge truck if he has to drive (or have it towed) a hundred miles (and past three Ford Dealers) to the nearest Dodge dealer for warranty service?

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Good point- and their high-margin pickup truck sales will really suffer in many rural areas if they can't get local service support. What rancher will buy a Dodge truck if he has to drive (or have it towed) a hundred miles (and past three Ford Dealers) to the nearest Dodge dealer for warranty service?
Ford has to be thinking they'll be in really good position if they can weather the next year or two without bankruptcy talk or bailout money...
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Ford has strong sales (relatively) in Europe and I would imagine that helps tremendously even when U.S. sales are bad. In Europe, Ford is known as a reliable car for a decent price. You'd think they'd offer more of their smaller range of cars in the U.S.

Three of the top 10 selling cars in the UK are Fords:
BBC NEWS | Business | UK car sales 24% lower in April

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Of course I'd be hesitant to buy a Jeep under the current circumstances ...
If you want a Jeep and can get one cheap - go for it. I've had 4 jeeps since 1995 and I dont consider the Jeep reliability to be as bad as critics are saying.
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You'd think they'd offer more of their smaller range of cars in the U.S.
This seems to have occurred to their new CEO. They will be bringing a number of cars to the US, including the Fiesta and the Transit Connect. The latter looks like an interesting vehicle that has the potential to be a category killer in the US if they do it right.
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This seems to have occurred to their new CEO. They will be bringing a number of cars to the US, including the Fiesta and the Transit Connect. The latter looks like an interesting vehicle that has the potential to be a category killer in the US if they do it right.
I think the European Ford Fusion would do well. Kind of a cross between a small family / mini-suv.

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I checked out the Patriot today. They had all of the Patriots lined up across from the Grand Cherokees which definitely made the Patriots look less appealing. The base package didn't have power winders or locks which is a little disappointing. It drove pretty nice although could use a little more power. If I was in the market for a new car I'd give it more consideration but I wasn't impressed enough want to buy it.
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