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Old 12-24-2006, 07:37 AM   #1
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Just too many people in America.

I remember when we hit 200,000,000 back in the 60s, now 300,000,000.

the roads are basically the same, areas are just too congested, heck that trip I did down 95 yesterday, oofah.

plus the infrastructure is well $hit, look at the railroads!! they look like the old soviet union.

Then there is the electrical grid, yes we all lose power all too quickly in bad weather.

Maybe those survivalist types in Idaho and montana got it right years ago when they went OFF the grid.

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Re: Just too many people in America.
Old 12-24-2006, 08:02 AM   #2
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Then there is the electrical grid, yes we all lose power all too quickly in bad weather.

Maybe those survivalist types in Idaho and montana got it right years ago when they went OFF the grid.

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We get our electricity from "Progress" Energy around here. Given the number of outages, seems to me we are already sort of off the grid.
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Old 12-24-2006, 09:47 AM   #3
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Re: Just too many people in America.

The problem isn't too many people in America, it is that too many of them want to live in the same places.

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We get our electricity from "Progress" Energy around here. Given the number of outages, seems to me we are already sort of off the grid.
Yes but we are back on line quickly that nuke plant 15 miles from my place is owned by them!!
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Re: Just too many people in America.

how many would be just about right?
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not a problem. in fact, you can send some more down here. but only send the rich ones. i need someone to buy this house.

"A U.S. census report released Friday shows that the boom for the Sunshine State has slowed, with Florida growing only 1.8 percent in 2006 after back-to-back years of adding more than 2 percent to the population." ~~recent news article

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To maintain a standard of living only slightly lower than we enjoy today, population size would need to decline to about 100 million people.
OK, Al. You go first.

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To maintain a standard of living only slightly lower than we enjoy today, population size would need to decline to about 100 million people.
Alrighty then! Can I help pick out people that we're going to eliminate send to less populous countries, in order to get the head count down here in the USofA??

I can think of some! Hey, with all those Iraqis getting blasted off the planet by there own brethern, I'm sure they could use some replenishment!
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Well that's certainly an interesting viewpoint. The author herself, Virginia Abernethy, makes for interesting googling. Add the phrase, "white supremacist"* to get straight to it, or go to her Wiki entry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Abernethy

*she prefers the term "seperatist"
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Well, I read her article and decided that I am a separatist too. I want to keep myself separate from people like her.
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I live in So. Cal. talk about masses of humanity! I always take into consideration the traffic before I go anywhere around here. I heard that last year more people left California than moved here. Suits me fine. There is nonstop construction going on, even with the slow down in housing sales. We had dairies, vineyards, orange groves, you name it.....Now.... housing tracks...malls, box stores, they never end, concrete jungle nothing else.
So the question is where to move in retirement? Another state? Another country?
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Old 12-26-2006, 08:26 AM   #15
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So the question is where to move in retirement? Another state? Another country?
the answer is to be happy with what you've got.

i went leaf peeping this year along the blue ridge parkway, an enjoyable & colorful mini-adventure but the mountain congestion surprised me. even hailing from fort lauderdale, the number of tourists in asheville & boone made me long for the relative calm of home. (i happened upon boone during a football game and could not even get into a restaurant.)

while we have way more cars in south florida then they have in the blue ridge mountains, we also have way more roads. one accident on those mountain roads (i ran into 3 during my week there) and you are stuck with no where to turn for hours.

at least at home there's usually a side road you can find which the tourists don't know about. as long as hertz doesn't rent to many cars with gps, local traffic should continue to flow even as population densifies.
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Alrighty then! Can I help pick out people that we're going to eliminate send to less populous countries, in order to get the head count down here in the USofA??
Don't rush me. It takes time to pack. 8)
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Re: Just too many people in America.

I just read the article. It is beyond me how anyone could doubt that humans like any other species have a range of preferred and maybe even necessary resources and conditions.

We will not recognize the world 25 years down the road, and IMO we will not likely judge it to be an overall improvement.

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Be happy with what I've got? Sounds nice but I respectfully disagree. Many people have moved here. So it is probably time for me to move out. I live in the local mountains. Mmmm... might keep this little ol' cabin of mine, travel and look around. Then make the leap if I decide to settle somewhere else. 8)
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:25 AM   #19
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We will not recognize the world 25 years down the road, and IMO we will not likely judge it to be an overall improvement.

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If this turns out to be correct (as it may well), it will have some interesting implications for retirement, and especially for Early Retirement. Looking back 25 years, things were not all that different than today. Looking ahead 25 years -- who knows? Non-linearities, discontinuities, etc. may be lurking. No way to tell. What do you think, HaHA?
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Old 12-28-2006, 07:56 AM   #20
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If this turns out to be correct (as it may well), it will have some interesting implications for retirement, and especially for Early Retirement. Looking back 25 years, things were not all that different than today. Looking ahead 25 years -- who knows? Non-linearities, discontinuities, etc. may be lurking. No way to tell. What do you think, HaHA?

Hummm 25 years ago, I still had LPs, a record player, No Cable TV yet, no cell phones, a 9K new Jetta VW no computer, rented a house for 900 dollars a month, Whoa!!!

My new house payment today is 200 dollars a month and I OWN IT a brand new one with all the bells and whistles....

I was making 30K in 1982 I am gonna get 32K for doing nothing in 2007, yes not much has changed!

Kool!

Oh I was working 4 jobs at that time!!
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