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Old 07-05-2006, 09:23 AM   #1
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I guess the pressure got to him.
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:26 AM   #2
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The smartest guy in the cemetary.
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Wow. I think I would just as soon be dead as to live the rest of my life in jail. He may have gotten off easy.*
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:39 AM   #4
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Someone here wants to see a body first.....

But, if I was him or Skilling I would take a couple of million and escape to a country that will not send me back... live out the rest of my life doing interviews etc. with the press and enjoying life...

Too late for one of them...
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Old 07-05-2006, 09:40 AM   #5
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I guess the pressure got to him.
Ken's lawyer must've told him to take his appeal to a higher court... maybe Kenny Boy's ol' buddy Cliff Baxter will be there to help.

I'm trying to find some sympathy for Lay and his trials/travails, but it just seems so pathetic next to the suffering caused to all the other Enron employees & their families.

Wonder how Skilling & Ebbers are feeling this morning. *Would a checkup be covered by their current medical insurers?
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Wow. I think I would just as soon be dead as to live the rest of my life in jail. He may have gotten off easy.
Correct. That MF should have been killed years ago ...OR... should have lived another 100 years in jail getting worked over every hour.
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Thanks to Ken Lay, we have to fill out a buttload of Sarbanes-Oxley documentation to get changes implemented into production. We have IT auditors looking at this cr*p all day long now
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I wish someone had dropped a house on him...
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He got off too easy!
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Thanks to Ken Lay, we have to fill out a buttload of Sarbanes-Oxley documentation to get changes implemented into production.* We have IT auditors looking at this cr*p all day long now*
We are just a small privately owned company but this past year our external auditors(KPMG) took twice as long to complete our audit. We had words with those sob's too. The Enrons of the world has had an effect on small time players like us. Glad I'm retiring, don't think I could stand many more audits.
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I'm sure glad I havent worked in 5 years. I'm not particularly audit friendly. My motto was "just do it, and we'll bury it in the paperwork later". I once buried a 21" monitor for an employee as a two week training session.
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not just a thief but a coward too. what a surprise.
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he's a smart man. i would've rather died too than live my days in the pen.

however, what *i* would've done is LEAVE. take a few mil and GO GO GO! i dont care if its a cave in the kodiak region up north, or a hut in mexico, but i'd go
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he's a smart man. i would've rather died too than live my days in the pen.

however, what *i* would've done is LEAVE. take* a few mil and GO GO GO! i dont care if its a cave in the kodiak region up north, or a hut in mexico, but i'd go
a smart man is a guy who sticks around to learn his lesson. the guy is a thief, a coward, and dumb as the ox which will not unlikely be his reincarnation. gee, he could wind up living his life in a pen afterall.
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We are just a small privately owned company but this past year our external auditors(KPMG) took twice as long to complete our audit. We had words with those sob's too. The Enrons of the world has had an effect on small time players like us. Glad I'm retiring, don't think I could stand many more audits.
Case and point -- it took me 6 hours and 4.5 people to prepare the documentation to implement a tax update into production. The overhead to maintain Sarbanes-Oxley compliance in the size of the pubicly held organization I work in has to be freaking astronomical. I would love to sit down and do the numbers. I love that kind of stuff.
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Suicide no doubt...but it'll get covered up.
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And his state is still liable in civil suits. Poor widow.
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And his state is still liable in civil suits. Poor widow.
Nah, I lost all sympathy for her too when she complained about how impoverished they were by Enron's implosion.

But I suspect that she has a better social support structure for dealing with the last few years and the next few decades...

How ironic. Now her lawyers are probably going to make the prosecutors feel bad for picking on a bereaved widow.
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No sympathy, but this is an example of stress taking a person out. He got off too easy, IMHO. I'm sure there are several Enron employees whose stress levels have caused heart attacks and/or death. So no sympathy, and not for his spouse, either. BTW: I have often wondered, why don't rich criminals just take the money and RUN. Michael Jackson is doing it, to a certain extent. Move as much money as you can to a hidden account then go and hide somewhere. That would be my inclination.
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Nah, I lost all sympathy for her too when she complained about how impoverished they were by Enron's implosion.

But I suspect that she has a better social support structure for dealing with the last few years and the next few decades...

How ironic.* Now her lawyers are probably going to make the prosecutors feel bad for picking on a bereaved widow.
Yeah impoverished, the nerve dying at his vacation home.
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