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Old 04-27-2008, 01:17 PM   #41
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Didn't the Mythbusters do a "scientific test" on the 2 second rule. In the same episode, they tested toothbrushes and other things from bathrooms. Everything had e-coli on it. Doesn't mean you die from it, or even get sick. Test your own toothbrush. Betcha there's some on there. The stuff is everywhere.

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Yeah, the fancy mens rooms in restaurants and hotels that have attendants often have a little dish of mints.

Places a certified tightwad who reuses holey wood in new projects would never visit
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Yeah, the fancy mens rooms in restaurants and hotels that have attendants often have a little dish of mints.
Places a certified tightwad who reuses holey wood in new projects would never visit
Maybe he was just a little more selective in his employers!
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Before I became a stay-at-home mom, I was a health inspector for our county. I spent about 50% of my time doing restaurant and food facility inspections (supermarkets, convenience stores, etc.). People, I can tell you that you do not want to know what happens in those kitchens or bathrooms. I inspected hundreds of restaurants and I never had one without a violation of some kind.

Want2Retire, usually an "A" grade is only given for a facility that does NOT have a major violation during an inspection. Major violations are ones that pose imminent risk to health, and include lack of handwashing, improper temperature control, sewage in the facility (this happens a lot, when places clog up their floor sinks and the drains back up), cross-contamination (my favorite was 100lbs of raw lamb thawing on a drainboard that drained into a sink full of lettuce being washed), pest infestation (rodents, flies,), food adulteration (rat droppings in the flour, etc.), etc. Each jurisdiction is different; our jurisdiction doesn't give grades but the reports are supposed to be public. Ask for one, but not for one at your favorite restaurant. Seriously.

And as for people not washing their hands because they can't read the signs -- it's got nothing to do with literacy. They're not washing their hands because their manager and co-workers aren't, either, and because there's no soap or hot water or paper towels (those cost money). Oh, and because the cheap *ss owner of the restaurant won't pony up $500 to put a handwashing sink in the kitchen and food prep area, so to wash their hands they've got to go to the bathroom, which is covered with, you guessed it.. e. coli.

Sigh. Rant over.

It was an awesome job, by the way. If you hate an office and you can get along well with people in tense situations, check it out. I spent the other 50% of my time out in the sticks doing well seals, septic installation inspections and swimming pool inspections. Usually out of cell phone range and in some beautiful areas.
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but fecal coliform was found in the sample.
Little sticky colored pieces of plastic...oh, wait a minute.
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Inspired by this report, the local TV station did a 'lemon report'.

If you're really concerned about e-coli, stay away from anyone who changes diapers.
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Ok, time for a quick lesson on fecal coliforms.

E.coli is what is known as an indicator microorganism. E. coli is a normal and natural inhabitant in mammals other animals. When you test water or food for the "possibility" of having other not so nice bacteria present (pathogens) which can and do make you sick. Some strains of E. coli can also make you sick but most are harmless normally.

E. coli is an indicator that human or other animal poop has contaminated the item being tested. The theory is that if E. coli is there then the other nasty bugs might also be there. Sewage is normally treated to kill off E. coli and the other nasty bugs in both sewage systems and drinking water. But, if somebody does doody and touches their pooper and does not wash their hands well (or at all ) then what ever they touch after that can be contaminated with said poop.

Anything that grows in the environment (fruit, vegis, cows, etc.) can become contaminated with just about anything that is in the environment. Most of this in limited to the outside of the item (except cows which create their own interior contamination). Processing plants generally treat the outside of these items with chlorinated water to reduce the contamination on the outside. But, if the forementioned non-handwashing doody dude uses untreated water to wash the fruit or if it gets contaminated in the food distribution system they the bugs will get back on the outside of the item...in this case the lemon peel.

To avoid all bacteria is impossible. If you are concerned your lemon is tainted then either refuse it and hope they actually washed your glass in hot soapy water or carry you own lemons which you maintained in a hermetically sealed container after thorough sanitization in a 7 % bleach-water solution for 10 minutes.

Or, don't worry about it. More than likely you have ingested lots and lots of E. coli over the years and never knew it. Being micro-phobic can make you sick.
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It was an awesome job, by the way. If you hate an office and you can get along well with people in tense situations, check it out. I spent the other 50% of my time out in the sticks doing well seals, septic installation inspections and swimming pool inspections. Usually out of cell phone range and in some beautiful areas.
Sounds like being a member of the Navy's Operational Reactor Safeguards Exam board.

Except for the "awesome" and "beautiful" parts, that is. But there was definitely swimming in pools of stuff.
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Inspired by this report, the local TV station did a 'lemon report'.

If you're really concerned about e-coli, stay away from anyone who changes diapers.
Forget e-coli, there's Norovirus in those diapers........
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Ok, time for a quick lesson on fecal coliforms.

E.coli is what is known as an indicator microorganism. E. coli is a normal and natural inhabitant in mammals other animals. When you test water or food for the "possibility" of having other not so nice bacteria present (pathogens) which can and do make you sick. Some strains of E. coli can also make you sick but most are harmless normally.

E. coli is an indicator that human or other animal poop has contaminated the item being tested. The theory is that if E. coli is there then the other nasty bugs might also be there. Sewage is normally treated to kill off E. coli and the other nasty bugs in both sewage systems and drinking water. But, if somebody does doody and touches their pooper and does not wash their hands well (or at all ) then what ever they touch after that can be contaminated with said poop.

Anything that grows in the environment (fruit, vegis, cows, etc.) can become contaminated with just about anything that is in the environment. Most of this in limited to the outside of the item (except cows which create their own interior contamination). Processing plants generally treat the outside of these items with chlorinated water to reduce the contamination on the outside. But, if the forementioned non-handwashing doody dude uses untreated water to wash the fruit or if it gets contaminated in the food distribution system they the bugs will get back on the outside of the item...in this case the lemon peel.

To avoid all bacteria is impossible. If you are concerned your lemon is tainted then either refuse it and hope they actually washed your glass in hot soapy water or carry you own lemons which you maintained in a hermetically sealed container after thorough sanitization in a 7 % bleach-water solution for 10 minutes.

Or, don't worry about it. More than likely you have ingested lots and lots of E. coli over the years and never knew it. Being micro-phobic can make you sick.
You sound like a microbiologist.........
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Or, don't worry about it. More than likely you have ingested lots and lots of E. coli over the years and never knew it. Being micro-phobic can make you sick.
Yeah, I'm worried about a poop-deficit on my food. Is this inverse to the tip percentage? A conspiracy by the folks who bring us anti-bacterial hand washing products? Yum.
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A local TV news team had cultures done on lemons from local fast food, bars, and restaurants. Restaurants had even cleaner lemons than fast food or bars, and the conclusions were that all were quite safe and that New Orleans establishments provide unusually clean lemons!

(I always thought those lemons from Wendys iced tea tasted suspicious... )
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Time to throw out some efficacy numbers and rinsewater dilution rates to separate the men from the boys........

Oh, and a little bit about "Log kill" rates would be cool.............
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A local TV news team had cultures done on lemons from local fast food, bars, and restaurants. Restaurants had even cleaner lemons than fast food or bars, and the conclusions were that all were quite safe and that New Orleans establishments provide unusually clean lemons!

(I always thought those lemons from Wendys iced tea tasted suspicious... )
Well, that was probably luck, considering citrus fruits have natural antibacterial properties built into them.

Apples? Not so much........
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As an option to ejecting all this poisonous fruit from our drinks, can it be made safe by soaking in Everclear for a period of time before consumption?
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