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Old 01-27-2008, 11:23 AM   #41
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IMHO, all of our presidents are dirty. Comes with the territory. Since I will never be president, there will never be a president I wholehartedly agree with

Absolutely correct. Its just harder to cover things up in this day and age.
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-> polls consistently show this "patient" mass voting dislike of GWB.

>> Polls published by global media orgs with agendas. I'm not disputing that some of his supporters are also disillusioned, but all the chatter is from those who are truly PO'ed; those who are "staying the course" do so mostly in silence.

knowing that our military and intelligence agencies have information that CNN doesn't-

> this I really find hard to believe, though am neither a student of history nor politics. A quick perusal of past wars I think shows no great truth unveiled after any war that wasn't intrinsically understood during armed conflict, and this before internet, CNN, satellite. Lots of books may be written, dissertations accomplished, but the general perception seems to remain the same.

>> I don't think we've had a war that can be compared to the situation in the Middle East. If this was the old days; we'd have nuked whatever country destroyed our skyscrapers, right? Pretty simple stuff.

GW is man enough to take the heat because he's trying to accomplish something that will protect the entire planet-

> read protect oil and line the pockets of his cronies donors friends associates.

>> Of course. You can't talk about global security without protecting oil in an oil-based economy. I'm amazed at people who disdainfully say we are fighting for oil like it's a bad thing. Unless you're riding a horse and burning wood, you have lot of interest in keeping the oil taps flowing. As for lining the pockets of yada, yada, - he certainly didn't invent that. That's how the power works everywhere in the world throughout history.

BTW, my nephew is a Marine, has been there, and is going back-> I hope he stays safe.

>> Thanks, me too.
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