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Old 10-01-2005, 02:03 PM   #21
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let's think about this toilet seat thing. Women need it down 100% of the time. Men need up up, say 80% of the time.

Is it not simply sexist to think that it is men's job to be "toilet seat valets" for women and that somehow if a woman is not looking where she parks her bum, this is a man's fault?

The most efficient approach, from an engineering perspective, is for the person about to use the appliance to arrange it in the state that they wish, and then leave it there when they are done. This minimizes the number of "fruitless round trips" (a man puts the lid up, pees, then puts it down again. next man has to lift it up again, then put it down. goes along with beer-drinking... ). Otherwise, the only person that ever has to fuss with it is a man. It is their solemn duty to arrange the seat for the convenience of women, so women don't have to get their hands yucky or look before they sit down. This almost feels like an original sin issue. Is this fair Makes about as much sense as providing 50% urinals in the women's rest room.

Fortunately, my SO is not helpless and gladly lifts the seat herself before sitting in porcelain.




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Re: Let's Pick on the Men Today!
Old 10-01-2005, 02:10 PM   #22
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I make it a rule to do what I can to curry favor with women. My personality is cross enough for them to bear; I have no problem with accepting their definition of toilet etiquette.

OTOH, if my need for women ever decreases significantly, they will be on their own when it comes to porcelain problems.

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Old 10-01-2005, 02:21 PM   #23
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cheap attempt coming to hijack the thread:

"We always hear "the rules" from the feminine side. OK - we are now going to hear the rules from the man's side. Please note ...these are all numbered "1" ON PURPOSE.

1. Learn to work the toilet seat. You're a big girl. If it's up, put it down.
1. Sometimes, we are not thinking about you. Live with it.
1. Shopping is NOT a sport, and no, we are never going to think of it that way.
1. When we have to go somewhere, absolutely anything you wear is fine... Really.
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1. Ask for what you want. Let us be clear on this one: Subtle hints do not work. Strong hints do not work. Obvious hints do not work. Just say it!
1. We don't remember dates. Mark birthdays and anniversaries on a calendar. Remind us frequently beforehand.
1. Yes and No are perfectly acceptable answers to almost every question.
1. Come to us with a problem only if you want help solving it. That's what we do. Sympathy is what your girlfriends are for.
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1. ALL men see in only 16 colors, like Windows default settings. Peach, for example, is a fruit, not a color. Pumpkin is also a fruit. We have no idea what mauve is.
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Old 10-02-2005, 12:00 PM   #24
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Usually a fight about the toilet seat has nothing to do whatsoever with the toilet seat.

However, let me point out that one can easily check to see if the seat is up.

I will publicly in this forum praise my wife for always remembering to put it up when she's done.

Probably because I have the same malfunction that tbone al has...
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Old 10-04-2005, 10:48 AM   #26
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I live alone so seat position is not a problem. Anytime I visit friends or relatives, it's no big deal to pay attention to the seat position when I enter the WC and if I change it, return it to it's original position.

Anyway, people shouldn't assume that the seat is where it needs to be. When I walk on a ped crosswalk with a stop sign, I stop and look to make sure that some idiot driver doesn't runs me over because (s)he didn't notice the stop sign. Most people have more faith in other people than I do. I ride my bicycle the same way.

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I once sat down on the toilet when the bathroom was pretty dark, and the seat was up. It wasn't a pleasant experience, and for a week after that I was really good about putting down the seat.
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Old 10-04-2005, 12:39 PM   #28
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Before I married my husband he usually would rent out a room to a friend to help make ends meet. His one question to them was " do you leave the seat up or down?". If the answer was leave it up he crossed you off the list. He feels it's good manners to put the seat down as well as the cover, where he learned this I'll never know but I'm not going to fight it LOL
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I once sat down on the toilet when the bathroom was pretty dark, and the seat was up.* *It wasn't a pleasant experience, and for a week after that I was really good about putting down the seat.
Well I'm glad one of guys admits to "falling in". Falling in is a traumatic experience. It reminds me of my phobia of tub drains as a kid. I was convinced that I would be sucked down the drain.
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I guess we could all do like Jack Nicholson did in "About Schmidt". Of course, he did get even after his movie wife died...
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I don't understand all this fuss about toilet seats. Me thinks it's all a tempest in a D-cup.

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DW constantly worries about sitting right on the porcelain at night when it is dark. Is it not a normal step in the bathroom visit to check the status of the toilet seat before using the toilet? Guys have to before every visit. I don't understand the issue with the toilet seat from a woman's perspective. But that can be added to the long list of other things about females I will never fully grasp.

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Does anyone have his and hers toilets or a toilet and a urinal in their abode?

Back in the roaring 90s I remember reading that putting a urinal in the master bath was the in thing for those with too much money...
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Does anyone have his and hers toilets or a toilet and a urinal in their abode?
All the toilets are hers. :
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DW constantly worries about sitting right on the porcelain at night when it is dark.* Is it not a normal step in the bathroom visit to check the status of the toilet seat before using the toilet?*
Well, at night we don't turn the light on in the bathroom which is just across the bedroom to avoid waking the other person. It is really dark in that downstairs bathroom because there are no windows there. I suppose we could turn on a night light but it's hard to sleep with even a little bit of light, and closing doors adds to noise when moving from one room to another.

Checking the toilet seat with one's hands is not a habit I want to start.
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As per the posts reflecting on why women do not automatically check the status of the toilet seat ... Perhaps when they approach the fixture they do not stand in front of it before remembering what to do next. I surmise that they are into a 180 degree turn during the final approach step.
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As per the posts reflecting on why women do not automatically check the status of the toilet seat ... Perhaps when they approach the fixture they do not stand in front of it before remembering what to do next. I surmise that they are into a 180 degree turn during the final approach step.
I like that in a comment. Someone who can insult everybody with specific comments regarding their most valued attributes.

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As per the posts reflecting on why women do not automatically check the status of the toilet seat ... Perhaps when they approach the fixture they do not stand in front of it before remembering what to do next. I surmise that they are into a 180 degree turn during the final approach step.
That's right, we back into the toilet, not stand in front of it

I can't believe we're still discussing toilet seats.
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Well, at night we don't turn the light on in the bathroom which is just across the bedroom to avoid waking the other person. It is really dark in that downstairs bathroom because there are no windows there. I suppose we could turn on a night light but it's hard to sleep with even a little bit of light, and closing doors adds to noise when moving from one room to another.
I got these little flat square plug in lights, green (although I've seen blue ones). I think they consume a few watts of electricity in use per year, and throw a nice very pale blue or green light. Just enough to see by, but nowhere near enough to penetrate an eyelid. I have about ten of them sprinkled around the house...bedroom, bathroom, kitchen, hallway. Plenty of glow to see your way around in. Highly recommended.

Looks like this. The green ones have square instead of rounded lighting areas.
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