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Old 07-11-2019, 10:53 AM   #1
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Life Expectancy

Simple, eh? Average Life Expectancy is 78.6 years.

Maybe not that simple. That 78.6 is the average for men and women for persons born in 2010. Since you weren't born in 1910, is there another way of looking at age?

Try this:

https://www.infoplease.com/life-expe...-sex-1930-2010

It's the average life expectancy based birth year. Much ado about nothing, except that you might want to see how you're doing compared to the odds.

For example, if you were born around 1960, your average life expectancy would be age 70.

In my case, when I was born, life expectancy, would be 62.(now 83)

Yes... averages are meaningless, but can give a sense of perspective.

An aside... this year, for the second year in a row, life expectancy will be shorter than the year before.

https://fortune.com/2018/02/09/us-li...dropped-again/
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From the article..."Despair"...due to social media addiction, both directly and indirectly. Compulsive voyeurism into the "portrayed" lives of others can lead to many ugly emotions...followed by potentially destructive behaviors.

Oh, and a negative self image from living a completely sedentary life doesn't help either...
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For 1954 it says 74. Hopefully that’s wrong by at least 10 years.
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Remember...they are averages...of everyone!
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Heh, heh, I guess I'm a few years past expiry (and that's using the best scenario though I consider my self sort of "very faded and bland pink" instead of white.)

I prefer the guidelines for RMD's. By that, I'll be paying taxes for a long time to come. Hmmm. Sounds sort of good. Maybe there is a good side to paying taxes after all.

May you all beat the tables and help to bankrupt the SS system!
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Simple, eh? Average Life Expectancy is 78.6 years.

Maybe not that simple. That 78.6 is the average for men and women for persons born in 2010. Since you weren't born in 1910, is there another way of looking at age?

Try this:

https://www.infoplease.com/life-expe...-sex-1930-2010

It's the average life expectancy based birth year. Much ado about nothing, except that you might want to see how you're doing compared to the odds.

For example, if you were born around 1960, your average life expectancy would be age 70.

In my case, when I was born, life expectancy, would be 62.(now 83)

Yes... averages are meaningless, but can give a sense of perspective.
Back when SS was created, they did not expect too many people living past 65 to even claim the benefits. So many died off without claiming a dime, hence the tax rate was low.

Now, people live past 65, even get married late and have kids.
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Old 07-11-2019, 01:53 PM   #7
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Here is what the bible says.

Psalm 90:10
The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
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Ok, I've got 9 years to go. If I never go to sleep, I can stretch the 9 years to be 12.

Speaking of average, my male clan members have done a lot to lower the average. Out of the 11 male members, four have died at ages 21, 35, 49, and 53, respectively. The oldest of the remaining 7 is me at age 57. I think we are doing worse than the Kennedys.
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For 1954 it says 74. Hopefully thatís wrong by at least 10 years.
sorry but it is likely i will help ruin that average ( despite being a non-smoker )

74 might easily be opportunistic for me
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Both parents died at 95.5
I use 95 as my scheduled death age.
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one died at 46 ( from illness )

one died at 81 ( from illness ... similar to mine )

if i get to the grand-parents the average looks a little worse considering they all survived WW1 and WW2
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Isn't Life Expectancy as projected from birth year irrelevant once one has made it to many decades of age? I remember seeing, and maybe also posted here by a E-R.org member, a different table.

For example, if you are presently age 65, you have made it past all the people in your birth year cohort who kicked the bucket pre-65. Something like the older you live year-by-year, the further out your likely age of death moves.

Does this sound familiar?
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Isn't Life Expectancy as projected from birth year irrelevant once one has made it to many decades of age? I remember seeing, and maybe also posted here by a E-R.org member, a different table.

For example, if you are presently age 65, you have made it past all the people in your birth year cohort who kicked the bucket pre-65. Something like the older you live year-by-year, the further out your likely age of death moves.

Does this sound familiar?

Yes, it does. If you live to age 55 already, your life expectancy is way past the average, something in 80s. I've read it in some research.
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Isn't Life Expectancy as projected from birth year irrelevant once one has made it to many decades of age? I remember seeing, and maybe also posted here by a E-R.org member, a different table.

For example, if you are presently age 65, you have made it past all the people in your birth year cohort who kicked the bucket pre-65. Something like the older you live year-by-year, the further out your likely age of death moves.

Does this sound familiar?
Yes.

A man who just turns 65 today can expect to live another 19 years on average.

But back in 1954 when he was born, his life expectancy was only 68 or so. That number of 68 included many unfortunate persons who already died young.

It's kind of like this. When you first enter a contest with 100 participants, your chance of winning is not that high. But if you make it to the top 5 finalists, your chance of becoming the champion is a lot higher.


PS. The risk we talk about here applies when we know nothing about an individual. If you know something more specific, then it's different. For example, many congenital diseases are known for sure to cut short a baby's life, and the afflicted newborn is not expected to even make the average life of 68.

And between two 65-year-olds, one with high blood pressure, high blood glucose, high cholesterol, and one with none of the above, the chance of the latter outliving the first is higher. But of course, random things can happen and the seemingly healthier one may die of cancer first. There's nothing certain in life, and there's only probability.
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i went to a seance many decades ago , where it was predicted , i would be married twice and dead by 26

so far that has been absolutely incorrect , however between 25 and 35 i was seriously ill twice ( at least ) ( and not even close to engaged )

so i learned one good lesson ... have a plan B ( and plan C )
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i went to a seance many decades ago , where it was predicted , i would be married twice and dead by 26

so far that has been absolutely incorrect , however between 25 and 35 i was seriously ill twice ( at least ) ( and not even close to engaged )

so i learned one good lesson ... have a plan B ( and plan C )

You also learned seance is crap.
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Isn't Life Expectancy as projected from birth year irrelevant once one has made it to many decades of age?
Yes.

If you are attempting to guess how much longer you will live, then the years prior to today are not relevant.
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Both parents died at 95.5
I use 95 as my scheduled death age.
Parents alive at 89 and 86. Recently moved my expiry date to 93.
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Yes.

A man who just turns 65 today can expect to live another 19 years on average.

But back in 1954 when he was born, his life expectancy was only 68 or so. That number of 68 included many unfortunate persons who already died young.

It's kind of like this. When you first enter a contest with 100 participants, your chance of winning is not that high. But if you make it to the top 5 finalists, your chance of becoming the champion is a lot higher.


PS. The risk we talk about here applies when we know nothing about an individual. If you know something more specific, then it's different. For example, many congenital diseases are known for sure to cut short a baby's life, and the afflicted newborn is not expected to even make the average life of 68.

And between two 65-year-olds, one with high blood pressure, high blood glucose, high cholesterol, and one with none of the above, the chance of the latter outliving the first is higher. But of course, random things can happen and the seemingly healthier one may die of cancer first. There's nothing certain in life, and there's only probability.
That was very well said.
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Something like the older you live year-by-year, the further out your likely age of death moves.

Does this sound familiar?
When my Dad was 90, his life expectancy was 93.5 and he died at 95. So I think he spent his whole life on the upper part of the curve!
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