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Old 07-02-2008, 07:41 AM   #21
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in the days before AC. During the summer, folks would stay outside on the stoop and even sleep outside during particularly hot evenings. Everyone in the neighborhood was outside a lot and visited with each other. This provided a sense of connection with your neighbors and community.
think this is true of the boating community as well, though many larger boats have air conditioning now, there always seems to be a sense of community in marinas where so many people are outside.

but i also lived in a condo a while back where after work and on weekends lots of us would gather at the pool and bring food & drink & floating backgammon boards. and without air conditioning we never would have populated florida to have fun with the neighbors by the pool.

also, without a/c, where would the mall walkers have ever met?
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I think the Television also drove people inside in the evenings. Now the internet also. When I was a kid in the 60's there were always kids out playing in the evenings. We had AC but only used it if it was really hot. People are not willing to let there kids run around the neighborhood anymore. Afraid of what might happen. Probably nothing, but tell that to a Mom.

The TV thing is very noticeable. When we bought our travel trailer it came with a television, external antenna, cable connection, etc. We immediately removed the TV, since the whole point is to get away from all that. We have been quite amazed at the number of people who sit in their RVs and stare at the tube every night.
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1979 -1989 since it never gets that hot or humid in Louisiana - once we moved from the duplex in New Orleans out to the fish camp on Lake Ponchartrain where the lake breeze(not) kept one cool - no A/C.

I wore sweaters to work to keep the A/C there from giving my body the wrong idea. In that area once school let out people would move to 'da camp' for summer and commute to work in the city. Portable fan under the camp for breeze if needed in the late afternoon/evening.

We had a 48 inch whole house fan inside.

A/C like sanity is overrated - but then again you don't really need electricity either. Even I never got 'that' frugal.

Old timers considered A/C bad for your health - especially going in and out of it.

heh heh heh - notice the dates - the late SO - she er encouraged me to get some A/C in the bedroom and later the whole house as time went by - there's frugal and then there is the second opinion although she had a different terminology. .
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Same experience here, growing up in the 60's. Playing cards held with clothespins to stick them in the spokes of your bicycle. Always outside unless weather prohibited it.

Scheduled activities? We never heard of that.
We used to put cards on our bike spokes too. This is one of those shared experiences of the boomer childhood.
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We used to put cards on our bike spokes too. This is one of those shared experiences of the boomer childhood.
Ditto here also.

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DD thinks she needs 72 when it's winter, and 68 when it's summer.:confused:
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No A/C in our house, but plenty of open windows, ceiling fans, & tradewinds.

When people move to Hawaii they usually complain bitterly about the hot summers. After a year here, though, they begin complaining bitterly about the freezing-cold winters.
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I don't like A/C and only use it in extreme conditions.

Today's high was 85 with low humidity and a good breeze; no A/C, no fans, didn't even resort to shorts or sleeveless shirts.
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When people move to Hawaii they usually complain bitterly about the hot summers. After a year here, though, they begin complaining bitterly about the freezing-cold winters.
Isn't it around 84 in the summer and 82 in the winter?
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Isn't it around 84 in the summer and 82 in the winter?
Doesn't take much experience to be a weather forecaster around here... highs in the mid 80s, lows in the mid 70s, tradewinds 10-15 mph, with mauka showers in some areas. The surf report takes longer than the weather report.

But when the tradewinds go Kona in Sep/Oct the daytime highs can get all the way up to the 90s. And in Jan/Feb, the dead of winter, some of those lows get into the 60s. Why, a few years back in the winter of '03 we had a low of 59 in the 50s!

My high-school friends can't understand why I don't like Pittsburgh winters anymore. Summers, either.
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Then there are those who turn the heat up in winter and run the fan
I may be wrong about this (just like I totally bought the theory of corn/ethanol decreasing pollution and offering a viable alternative energy source), but doesn't running a fan in the winter in reverse direction conserve energy and make homes more comfortable with less utilization of the heat? Some websites like reliant.com say this:

In the winter, reverse the rotation of your ceiling fans to lift cool air and move warm air across the ceiling and down the walls into the living zone. The fan will bring the hot air down to mix with the cooler air at floor level. This mixing will basically equalize the temperature at floor and ceiling levels, which means that the heat will not be wasted keeping the ceilings warm. The heating system would not need to run as often, and your savings could be significant — all without compromising your comfort level.
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In Texas, there's a word for "life with no A/C."

It's called "Hell."
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I may be wrong about this (just like I totally bought the theory of corn/ethanol decreasing pollution and offering a viable alternative energy source), but doesn't running a fan in the winter in reverse direction conserve energy and make homes more comfortable with less utilization of the heat? Some websites like reliant.com say this:

In the winter, reverse the rotation of your ceiling fans to lift cool air and move warm air across the ceiling and down the walls into the living zone. The fan will bring the hot air down to mix with the cooler air at floor level. This mixing will basically equalize the temperature at floor and ceiling levels, which means that the heat will not be wasted keeping the ceilings warm. The heating system would not need to run as often, and your savings could be significant — all without compromising your comfort level.
This wasn't using a ceiling fan to mix the air (which seems like a good idea). This was turning the thermostat up to 75 or so and turning on a floor fan next to the bed.
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We've tried reversing the ceiling fans in the winter but it didn't work for us. It just disturbs the "boundary layer" of warm air surrounding skin and makes it feel colder.

No way would I ever go back to no A/C. Some days would be tolerable, but 90+ with 70%+ humidity and no A/C is still something I'd like to forget.
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