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Old 01-01-2011, 06:25 AM   #21
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Underpaid sex workers. Just haggling over the price. Could try freelancing.
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Old 01-01-2011, 06:33 AM   #22
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I wonder how these women rationalize that they are not prostitutes? Or maybe they know it and don't care.
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Am I the only one that finds it ironic that they will screw this goofy old man for a monthly stipend, but get all huffy over the carpet?
At $1k/week my guess is it had a lot more to do with the other perceived fringe benefits then the money. If they were just doing it for the money most of these girls would make more than that an hour working for a high end escort service.
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Just read the article....

Seems to me that all Hef is doing is buying their services.... and he has some rules to follow so they are not out and about with others...

If you do not want to follow the rules, just leave... seems like there are enough women who are willing to sell their bodies to him...

I am surprised there have not been more kids popped out... but maybe they take care of that also...
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Maybe we can get Dirty Jobs to do a show on carpet cleaning at the Playboy Mansion?
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...it's a sticky situation, indeed.
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.... and he has some rules to follow so they are not out and about with others...
I imagine they get a little help in that department from their co-workers. Overall though, it is impressive that Hef at 80+ can have sex with all those women without a Viagra drip.

But Hef, for God's sake man, get rid of the poopy rugs and the doggies. You have all those human pets, let the doggies go to a rescue service. Or sell them as Playboy Dogs.

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1. Walk toward door.
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3. Exit with dignity intact.

Any questions, ladies?
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Exit with dignity intact? Well, 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
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Wonder who gets to clean this thing?

Panoramio - Photo of Grotto At The Playboy Mansion
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An industrial-strength sewage pump pool filter?
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But Hef, for God's sake man, get rid of the poopy rugs and the doggies. You have all those human pets, let the doggies go to a rescue service. Or sell them as Playboy Dogs.

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I would never adopt a rescue dog or cat to these clowns. They view pets as "fashion accessories".

What an utter waste Hef's life has been. I actually have more respect for Larry Flint. Hustler magazine doesn't try to glamorize the porn industry like Playboy does. And hey, he got a case all the way to the Supreme Court. Not saying Larry's someone I admire - just that he's a bit more strait forward about what his intentions are.
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One of the interesting things about Playboy is that Hef doesn't own the mansion, Playboy Enterprise does. The rent it back to Hef at a pretty modest sum a few hundred thousand per year. Admittedly Hef is the largest shareholder in Playboy 1/3 of the company, however like a lot of companies where the founder is still alive he has special shares which give 70% voting control.

Overall the mansion and the whole Hefner lifestyle is pretty significant drag on Playboy's financial health which is why the mansion has been falling into a state of disrepair for the last decade or so. After examining the finances of the company I sold the Playboy short when Hefner announced his bid to take the company private. I intend to buy the stock back when the old guy looks like he is going to die.

As a long time Playboy fan and up until recently magazine subscriber I'll take issue with the article a bit. First the book Bunny Tales is an old book 2006 so I don't understand why it is newsworthy. Hef has hundreds of ex girlfriends and thousands of girls he's had sex with. There have only been two or three really nasty accounts in all of these years. Typically his ex girlfriends describe him as sweet, smart and very romantic. This is true even when he kicks them out.

That said I don't disagree with any of the characterizations. In a nutshell there isn't a lot of difference between these girls and prostitutes. While I can perhaps understand the appeal when Hef was 40 something at 80 it is just gross.

Playboy the magazine, has long ago lost its relevance. However, Playboy the brand is still as popular as ever especially with young woman. I see a lot of 16-25 year old woman wearing Playboy branded clothes. Becoming Playmate isn't a ticket to fame and fortune and the pay 25K for a two year commitment to modeling for Playboy isn't all that. However becoming Playboy Playmate is going to get your foot in the door in Hollywood, for TV and spokesmodeling gigs. More recently The Girls Next Door has been the most popular TV show on E!. Overall even if only handful of ex Playboy models have really hit it big, a lot have a successful careers launched by being a Playmate.
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While I can perhaps understand the appeal when Hef was 40 something at 80 it is just gross.
Wait until you are 80 and see how you feel then.

Also, I don't see the perjorative in being called a prostitute. The girls are not out spreading disease, they are protected, they are doing an honest job for a modest living, paying taxes and not being welfare clients.

I wish there were more of them, although as fantasy sex partners they are not personally appealing to me.

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......... paying taxes ...........
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I'm curious how that part works when you get paid in cash from Hef's safe. Do you suppose he hand writes a W2 at the end of the year?
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Nah, they get a 1099--like all independent contractors. ;-)
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Admittedly Hef is the largest shareholder in Playboy 1/3 of the company, however like a lot of companies where the founder is still alive he has special shares which give 70% voting control.
You know you've been controlling the company for too long when your daughter is old enough to retire from the CEO-- and is also old enough to be the grandma of your current "girlfriend" fiancée.

Now I need to make some sort of comparison to Buffett & Munger at Berkshire Hathaway...
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Wait until you are 80 and see how you feel then.

Also, I don't see the perjorative in being called a prostitute. The girls are not out spreading disease, they are protected, they are doing an honest job for a modest living, paying taxes and not being welfare clients.

I wish there were more of them, although as fantasy sex partners they are not personally appealing to me.

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Hum I am not sure about paying the taxes part. I will say that allowance paid to the girlfriends for 'personal services' is including in Playboy's SEC filings. Not something I read every day in SEC reports.

Many of them are too blonde and too plastic to be ultimate sex fantasies, but I gladly run across hot coals to have sex with any of them at age 50 and at age 80, I gladly do so in my walker. As for being prostitutes as I said the line is gray one, and while I personally marginally favor legalizing prostitution, I realize that my opinion is in a minority.
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Apparently the Hefster got in on that "Pajama Gram" half off sale..
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You know you've been controlling the company for too long when your daughter is old enough to retire from the CEO-- and is also old enough to be the grandma of your current "girlfriend" fiancée.

Now I need to make some sort of comparison to Buffett & Munger at Berkshire Hathaway...
Actually, Hef's kids from his second wife are rumored to be next in line to take over the company and they are almost as old as Crystal.

There is some similarities in the paternalistic attitude between Hefner and Buffett/Munger. On the other hand Playboy stock has 15 year CAGR -.3.45 vs +9.22 for Berkshire. Needless to say the shareholder who has seen his 10K shrink to $6200 is lot less forgiving of the CEO quirks than the guy who has seen 10K turn into $37,500.

FYI, I watch Playboy's finances like you watch CFPs, with a morbid fascination. Of course I bet Hef throws way better parties than John Dean.
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