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Old 05-30-2015, 10:30 AM   #61
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Ah the myth of the TX hill country.

Every bit as hot as the coast and every bug that bites lives there.
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Some that don't live here pass through and bite, too. And all of them suck.
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NB, san marcos, boerne, Wimberley, all nice spots tho
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Several of us have recommended the state of WA. I suggest that the OP plan several relatively long term visits to each of the areas of the state mentioned and look around. Keep in mind the fact that east of the Cascade Mountains is a high plateau. It is dryer, hot in the summer and cold in the winter. I recommend you buy or borrow "Weather of the Pacific Northwest" by Cliff Mass, PhD.

FWIW mosquitoes are not a problem except around mountain lakes in the spring (the fish need something to eat). Rattle snakes can be found in the central and eastern areas of the PNW.
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NB, san marcos, boerne, Wimberley, all nice spots tho
Wimberley will be a nice place again someday but they are still recovering bodies at the moment.
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yes that's horrible - friends of a friend were the ones that died in that house on the blanco last weekend, just terrible


one thing about TX, best food on the planet IMO


the food in the PNW isn't nearly as good, well maybe except for the seafood - the texmex here is just plain horrible and the BBQ is a joke, I miss those gigantic head-on shrimp at fiesta for $7 a pound


PNW has great wine though. The regular/craft beer is about the same as TX.
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As a related aside, it also seems to me that there's a connection between states that have a high income tax and ones that overwhelm their citizens with rules, regulations and a generally in your face attitude. NY and CA are two examples that immediately come to mind.
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As a related aside, it also seems to me that there's a connection between states that have a high income tax and ones that overwhelm their citizens with rules, regulations and a generally in your face attitude. NY and CA are two examples that immediately come to mind.

Oh, bruther. Here we go again.
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NB, san marcos, boerne, Wimberley, all nice spots tho
San Marcos is the fastest growing city in the country, and New Braunfels and Boerne are also in the top 10. May be worth considering if you don't want explosive growth where you live.
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As a related aside, it also seems to me that there's a connection between states that have a high income tax and ones that overwhelm their citizens with rules, regulations and a generally in your face attitude. NY and CA are two examples that immediately come to mind.
Generally it's because most people in the state want it that way. Different strokes and all. That's why we are free to "vote with our feet".
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As a related aside, it also seems to me that there's a connection between states that have a high income tax and ones that overwhelm their citizens with rules, regulations and a generally in your face attitude. NY and CA are two examples that immediately come to mind.
On the flip side, there is also a connection between taxes and the public services those taxes are able to provide. California raised taxes on the wealthy not too long ago, while Kansas has cut income taxes. If you only look at income taxes and not budgets and services, that is only considering one side of the equation.

California's Budget Surplus Soars to New Heights - School Benefit
California's budget surplus soars to new heights; schools to benefit - San Jose Mercury News

Education Latest Target of Kansas Budget Cuts
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/us/politics/education-is-newest-target-of-kansas-budget-cuts.html
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Oh, bruther. Here we go again.
I assumed this thread would go there sooner than this.
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Well, don't forget snakes, bears, horned toads, and assorted varmints. nobody wants important elements left out...
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What's wrong with horned toads? They never hurt anybody. I think they're sort of cute. And the squirting blood out of it's eyes defense is pretty wild.
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What's wrong with horned toads? They never hurt anybody. I think they're sort of cute. And the squirting blood out of it's eyes defense is pretty wild.
Just a failure of imagination, I guess, hence the "assorted varmints". You're right, they are cute. I could live with replacing the toad with skunk.
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What's wrong with horned toads? They never hurt anybody. I think they're sort of cute. And the squirting blood out of it's eyes defense is pretty wild.
When my ex-wife did that to me, I didn't think it was cute...
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If you are looking at Wyoming consider the SE corner of the state (Laramie, Cheyenne, Wheatland, Torrington). Reasonable real estate prices and close to major cities in Colorado. Downside of the northern part of the state is that it may be too conservative for most people from NYC.
I don't mind the political landscape one bit, but the scenery in the Cheyenne/Laramie is far from gorgeous according to all the photos I've seen. If I'm mistaken or if there is a pocket of beauty in there somewhere, please do correct me. Thanks.
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Let's get the facts straight on Wyoming

In my humble opinion North Central Wyoming is the best place a person can retire or raise a family. Keep hearing this nonsense of harsh/frigid winters and that is just BS. Might have been true 40 years ago but not today. Sure we can have snow and cold but it does not last. You will never see me mowing my lawn 12 months a year. Don't have to worry about the smog either. Big Horn National Forest has 100's of miles of great access. Good hunting, fishing, ATV, snow machining, not to mention fresh air. Third generation born and raised for the past 64 years and lovin every day of living here. I sell real estate so don't listen to me. Wyoming is not for everyone but that's the reason it's such a great place. Just sayin.
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In my humble opinion North Central Wyoming is the best place a person can retire or raise a family. Keep hearing this nonsense of harsh/frigid winters and that is just BS. Might have been true 40 years ago but not today. Sure we can have snow and cold but it does not last. You will never see me mowing my lawn 12 months a year. Don't have to worry about the smog either. Big Horn National Forest has 100's of miles of great access. Good hunting, fishing, ATV, snow machining, not to mention fresh air. Third generation born and raised for the past 64 years and lovin every day of living here. I sell real estate so don't listen to me. Wyoming is not for everyone but that's the reason it's such a great place. Just sayin.
A number of friends of mine went to the Big Horn mountain trail run a couple weeks ago (various race lengths up to 100 miles) and raved about it. 2nd year they've done it and they are trying to get more of us to come out next year. I haven't heard talk of any of them moving there but they sure do enjoy the race, the scenery, and the people around there.

It's not the SE corner that was being talked about though, since you brought up getting facts straight!
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Suggest you check out eastern Tennessee, near Knoxville. No state income tax (although % & Dividends are taxed), inexpensive real estate, at the foot of the Great Smokey Mountain national forest, beautiful lakes & rivers, very mild four season climate, outstanding health care, big name university, and more diversity than you'd think. DW & I lived there for 4 yrs and almost stayed for FIRE but, in the end, decided to move to be closer to long term friends.
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