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Old 05-13-2016, 03:55 PM   #61
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No miles and miles of solar panels, rows and rows of windmills, gigantic banks of battery to store that power, colossal dams for reservoirs for storage, massive desalination plants for Californians to water their lawn again?
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:27 PM   #63
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No miles and miles of solar panels, rows and rows of windmills, gigantic banks of battery to store that power, colossal dams for reservoirs for storage, massive desalination plants for Californians to water their lawn again?
No instead you have as an offshoot of the Mars mission solar roof tiles made of triple junction carbon nanotube copper indium alloy, which by the year 2030 enabled all new homes constructed to be entirely grid neutral. The technology invented in 2026 by Dr. Simon Yangar and his team to extract water from Martian rocks enabled California to export water to Washington State.
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Perhaps a quote is in order:


"We choose to go to the moon. We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win, and the others, too."


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Old 05-13-2016, 05:39 PM   #65
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No instead you have as an offshoot of the Mars mission solar roof tiles made of triple junction carbon nanotube copper indium alloy, which by the year 2030 enabled all new homes constructed to be entirely grid neutral. The technology invented in 2026 by Dr. Simon Yangar and his team to extract water from Martian rocks enabled California to export water to Washington State.
I like that.

Can we have all that and just stay home on cozy earth, instead of going to chilly Mars?
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I like that.



Can we have all that and just stay home on cozy earth, instead of going to chilly Mars?


YOU can stay home, but the tech leaps might not happen without the boost...
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People say that we need the challenge of space travel to get some solutions to problems on earth.

What I was hinting at is that the above is a fallacy. We can work on earth problems without trying to solve an indirect space problem.
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People say that we need the challenge of space travel to get some solutions to problems on earth.



What I was hinting at is that the above is a fallacy. We can work on earth problems without trying to solve an indirect space problem.


Maybe the survival of the human race could be a side-benefit? Surely worth a few fed dollars, no?
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Imagine if an asteroid is going to hit Earth and not Mars, or the other way around. People in the doomed planet are going to cry out and say that it is not fair, that they should be on the other planet. There's panic, pandemonium as people trample each other to board the few shuttles to escape.

I say let us stay all in one boat. We all go down together. It's more fun in h*ll that way.
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Imagine if an asteroid, perhaps 20 miles in diameter is going to hit the earth in 30 years. Would it perhaps have been beneficial to have the technology capable of putting humans on Mars which could also maybe be used to divert the asteroid while it is years from earth. On the flip side, we could have plenty of clean water and nice roads for people here on earth as they drive to the final party and toast to their impending doom.
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I want the asteroid to hit me square on the head and put me out of my misery fast.

Hopefully that will be right after I ate a $50 lunch at the sushi bar.
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Imagine if an asteroid, perhaps 20 miles in diameter is going to hit the earth in 30 years. Would it perhaps have been beneficial to have the technology capable of putting humans on Mars which could also maybe be used to divert the asteroid while it is years from earth. On the flip side, we could have plenty of clean water and nice roads for people here on earth as they drive to the final party and toast to their impending doom.


Perhaps we read too much sci-fi? *shrug*
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For sure. Either asteroids or terminator computers will get us for sure. Or tropospheric tornadoes or stoppage of the "core". Global warming and flooding, bird influenza and ebola.

The end is near guys are always popular, sandwich boards on street corners before high tech.

All we have to do is go to Mars and turn on the air machine.
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What I was hinting at is that the above is a fallacy. We can work on earth problems without trying to solve an indirect space problem.
Sadly, there's little glory and little thanks for solving most earth problems. Look at the high standard of living enjoyed by today's Americans, and yet large numbers of them gnash their teeth because somebody somewhere's got even more.
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For sure. Either asteroids or terminator computers will get us for sure. Or tropospheric tornadoes or stoppage of the "core". Global warming and flooding, bird influenza and ebola.

The end is near guys are always popular, sandwich boards on street corners before high tech.

All we have to do is go to Mars and turn on the air machine.
Without technology, we would not have MRI, radar weather forecasting, heart transplants where you are walking around the next day, handheld computers that can hold all of the books ever printed and still have room for angry birds.

All of which would have been considered science fiction 100 years ago.
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Imagine if an asteroid is going to hit Earth and not Mars, or the other way around. People in the doomed planet are going to cry out and say that it is not fair, that they should be on the other planet. There's panic, pandemonium as people trample each other to board the few shuttles to escape. .
What would really happen is that the chosen few in power will take all the available spots and regular folks will all be left behind. Oh...they might bring along a few workers that know how to run things, but unless you're one of the "elite" or one of their minions, you will probably be left behind.
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