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Old 10-24-2009, 03:52 PM   #1
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Martial Arts: Which discipline?

If you can choose between Taekwondo, Karate or Kung fu?

I'd be interested a good discipline for women with a focus on self-defense.

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Oh yeah, I'm looking for personal experiences in the these arts, not a link to Google.
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Oh yeah, I'm looking for personal experiences in the these arts, not a link to Google.
So where's the fun in that?
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I would say that the fit with the school and the teacher is what counts - a teacher who doesn't like women or system/school with imbedded sexism, will stop you even if the style is the 'perfect fit.'

Visit several schools, several times. Who teaches? How do they treat the students? Are the students respectful, groveling, or cultish towards the teacher(s)? How do the students treat each other? (Male and female, on that question) How many women are training? Are they spread across the ranks, or is there one 'queen bee', often the male head teacher's wife/ sweetie?

Edit: if you can talk to various of the women who are already training, this would be great!

If what you want is strictly self-defense training, look around and get self-defense training. With a good teacher, one who covers the whole issue of women's societal roles, the 'pleaser' thing, the 'good girl' thing, as well as the physical - you can learn to f*ck up someone really seriously much quicker than you can learn the conditioning, grace, timing, flexibility, self-control and all that good stuff that long-term martial arts training will do for you.

I don't know of anyone teaching in Estonia to recommend, but I will ask some of the European woman martial artists I know and see if I can get some names.


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If it is legal to carry a gun in her jurisdiction, save a lot of time and disappointment by seeing if she might like to get training in armed self defense. It works much, much better.

My ex had to be out late a lot, in places not always of her choosing and she trained with and carried a small 9mm. Never had to use it, fortunately.

A well trained woman martial artist with plenty of time to also lift heavy weights can often get strong and quick enough to beat the crap out of her middle class male neighbors, but not have near so good results against most attackers, who are big, strong, ruthless, experienced at mugging and rape and often armed as well.

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Depends on what she wants, and local law. I have no idea what the situation is in the former Soviet countries.

IMO a good SD course starts with assertive body language, "NO!" and moves uphill to "whatever means necessary" -

Good to hear that your friend trained w the gun. Too many men and women view them as magic talismans, unaffected by adrenel rush, loss of fine motor skills, etc!

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I would suggest Taekwondo. My daughter took it when she was young and enjoyed it. I went to her classes with her. They included self-defense training. Very good exercise and you don't get as beat up as with Karate.

I knew a young man in college who was a master of Karate and saw what it did to him.

Kung fu I know nothing about. Didn't like the TV show, either.
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If you can choose between Taekwondo, Karate or Kung fu?
I'd be interested a good discipline for women with a focus on self-defense.
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Whichever place has the best/most likable instructors-- knowledgeable without being authoritarian. No screamers. No military boot-camp workouts. The owner should actually teach, not just hide in his office chasing business leads while his new black belts try to do all the teaching. All else being equal, then extra bonus points if the instructor is a woman. But gender should be a lower priority than the other criteria.

I don't know if the American fashion has spread across the Atlantic yet, but you might prefer kickboxing to any of the other choices. Many (most?) of the classes are women-only. It uses skills from the other martial arts (round kicks, front kicks, back kicks) with a lot of fists (boxing gloves & heavy bags).

Taekwondo is an Olympic sport, unlike the other two, so you may find more choices there. It's a full-contact sport, too, although fists are only allowed on the chest protector. But I don't know how popular it is in your area compared to the other martial arts.
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Thanks. I hadn't really thought about kickboxing. I looked it up and it is widely popular here. Multiple outlets also for both Karate and Taekwondo. Tallinn is pretty big and has everything you'd find elsewhere.

Sounds like the instructor is more important than the discipline. Makes sense. I'll check around some more.
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Tallinn is pretty big and has everything you'd find elsewhere.
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I'd be interested a good discipline for women with a focus on self-defense.
For defense, look to Krav Maga.
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I'm a woman of some age and I'd take Krav Maga in a second if I could find a teacher where I'm at. It's the art of self defense strictly and great for a woman. It's from Israel originally, and you can Google it yourself. How's that?
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