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Old 07-01-2008, 07:10 PM   #21
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I was really good at memorizing phone numbers. historical date , even past tax rates . Poems, historical passages pretty good but not great. But pop music lyrics, movie dialogue I always sucked same thing with languages.

There was interesting article in the Atlantic postulating the Google has changed the way we think. I don't agree with much of it, but the one thing I definitely have observed is I no longer memorize phone numbers, address or anything that can be easily looked up on my cell phone or Googled.

Anybody else find themselves memorizing less now days?
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Old 07-01-2008, 07:20 PM   #22
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There was interesting article in the Atlantic postulating the Google has changed the way we think. I don't agree with much of it, but the one thing I definitely have observed is I no longer memorize phone numbers, address or anything that can be easily looked up on my cell phone or Googled.

Anybody else find themselves memorizing less now days?
I find myself doing the same thing - not focusing on remembering things, but where I can find the information. I don't remember phone numbers anymore, they're all in my cell phone or speed dial. But I have to keep the manual for said devices so I can add/delete new numbers.

In school I also resisted rote memorization as it seemed pointless. Why memorize it if I can look it up?
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didn't need instructions. seemed obvious enough (but then, i'm pretty good at figuring out patterns). you just click the circles in the same numeric order that circled the numbers.

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9 5 7 8 2

click first the 2 circle position then the 5 then 7 then 8 then the 9 position, all in order from the lesser to the greater numeric value and in the same circles in which the numbers previously where shown.
Thanks..... got a 28... I guess that is good...


OK.... two more times.... another 28 and then a 20...
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I never liked standing in front of the class reciting a poem. But, for three straights grades 5-6-7th? I recited the same poem: Casey at the Bat. It was the one poem I could actually picture and understand.
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I went through college with one notebook for notes. It was easier for me to just memorize the lecture and coursework and then play it back during tests. But then I discovered alcohol and women and, well, my brain hasn't been nearly as sharp ever since.
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But then I discovered alcohol and women ...
That was my major also!

I always said I bombed out of college the first time because after my Freshman year I changed my major to alcoholism and sexual deviancy. They gave grades, but no credit toward graduation.
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Nords - I'm the exact same way. I have sort of a photographic memory, so if someone writes down a phone number for me, I usually never have to see it again.
i have a pornographic memory
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Think of the years of entertainment you can give to your grandkids. My poetic recitation ability is limited to "There was a young man from Nantucket..."

I wish there was some way to make money from phone numbers, account numbers, and license-plate numbers. If I use a number three or four times it's stuck in my brain for years, including just about every phone number we've ever owned since I was in elementary school and several car plates that were turned in decades ago. Unfortunately our kid seems to be cursed with the same involuntary-memory trick, but spouse enjoys being able to use us as mobile phone directories.
Thats the way I am. I cannot recall what I ate for breakfast or particulars of our wedding or anything of that nature, but if you asked me my long-dead grandmother's phone number or the license plate number of the car I learned to drive in, I could tell you without even thinking about it. I guess the way that some of us remember things or the types of things we can recall are different by individual.
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Just a question to the people who can remember names and/or phone numbers forever..... are you good at math?

I ask this because a long time ago I saw a PBS show which talked about memory.. they said there were five kinds of memory... don't remember what they are... but, they said that there seemed to be a particular place in the brain for names and numbers... but that if people have a problem with this area of memory they usually were very good at math.... I happen to be very good at math and crap and names and phone numbers... so I was wondering if the opposite is true...
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I have that exact type of memory, remembering license plates and phone numbers and home addresses, as well as statistics to almost any sports wealth of knowledge out there. (I mean come on, where else can you get such an expanse of numbers/memory) I am also very good at Math, it's kind of my thing, so maybe it does have something to do with the method in which we learn/memorize.
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with all the carnegie librarians, surely someone more clever corrected "cleverer" before he was quoted.
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Just a question to the people who can remember names and/or phone numbers forever..... are you good at math?

I ask this because a long time ago I saw a PBS show which talked about memory.. they said there were five kinds of memory... don't remember what they are... but, they said that there seemed to be a particular place in the brain for names and numbers... but that if people have a problem with this area of memory they usually were very good at math.... I happen to be very good at math and crap and names and phone numbers... so I was wondering if the opposite is true...
I majored in Finance and crunch #s all day, so I guess you could say I am good at math. Although, I would argue that my sister and my father, both engineers, are better at it than me (I always hated calculus).
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You might have "hyperthymestic syndrome."
I had to look that one up, but...no, I don't have that.
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I was watching a TV college course on psyc.... they said very few people have a 'photograhic memory'.... they said the test was to have them spell something backward that they have as a photograph.... so in other words, you could spell photograph and hpargotohp at about the same speed.... if you can not, then it is not photographic...
Thanks Texas - no, I can't do that. That's why I said "sort of". I remember things by where they are on a page, or in relation to other things. I can recall things by picturing where they are on a page. I'd know where I saw it in relation to other things, then be able to "see" the words in my head.

I don't know what you would call that.
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Just a question to the people who can remember names and/or phone numbers forever..... are you good at math?

I ask this because a long time ago I saw a PBS show which talked about memory.. they said there were five kinds of memory... don't remember what they are... but, they said that there seemed to be a particular place in the brain for names and numbers... but that if people have a problem with this area of memory they usually were very good at math.... I happen to be very good at math and crap and names and phone numbers... so I was wondering if the opposite is true...
I'm good at math and remembering numbers; I have great difficulty remembering names.
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When I was a basic trainee in the Army many moons ago, we were required to memorize the General Orders and the Code of Conduct and I recall being quizzed on it at random times~ "Private, what is the 2nd General Order?". I still remember most of them, as well as the C of C. I'm sure others will recall this mental exercise also.


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Thanks Texas - no, I can't do that. That's why I said "sort of". I remember things by where they are on a page, or in relation to other things. I can recall things by picturing where they are on a page. I'd know where I saw it in relation to other things, then be able to "see" the words in my head.

I don't know what you would call that.

I don't know.... I have a friend who is VERY smart who can do the same thing.... he will say... it is around page XXX on the right side at the top.... he can not remember the exact wording, but the location so he can look it up...

I have that a little... I can kind of remember reading or hearing something about whatever... and when someone hits a few key words or phrases, I can go find it in my memory.... sometimes the problem is finding it without those triggers.... not anywhere near as good...
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You might have "hyperthymestic syndrome."
Well, I can't remember every detail of my life, but I seem to remember more details about mine than most remember about theirs. I wasn't sure so I showed spouse the Wikipedia description and asked if she thought it applied to me or our daughter. Her feedback was "Oh gawd yes now get away from me you freaks."

And yes, we're very good at math. Spouse took more courses than I did, though.

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I always believed (and still believe) that the important point is understanding the theory behind something and its implications.
I'll bet you were that guy in all my math & physics & engineering classes who was always deriving the formulae when he needed them instead of memorizing them...

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The longest thing I ever memorized verbatim (and certainly one Nords can appreciate) was the poem "The Laws of the Navy" which begins
My personal stumbling block has always been "Take heed what you say of your seniors..."

I can also recite the seven immediate actions for a nuclear reactor scram casualty, and I occasionally even used to entertain spouse or my shipmates by waking up from nightmares screaming out the orders.

But now all of that hard-earned knowledge is only good for boring entertaining our families with sea stories.

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I have great difficulty remembering names.
I've been afflicted with the same syndrome, but in my case it stems from a lot of alcohol lack of interest rather than a lack of ability. When I focus (or when it suddenly becomes very important to remember that information) I can do it.

It's theorized that much of "senior moments" or "CRS Syndrome" is caused by a lack of interest/attention rather than by aging or mental decline.
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I have great difficulty remembering names.
I've been afflicted with the same syndrome, but in my case it stems from a lot of alcohol lack of interest rather than a lack of ability. When I focus (or when it suddenly becomes very important to remember that information) I can do it.

It's theorized that much of "senior moments" or "CRS Syndrome" is caused by a lack of interest/attention rather than by aging or mental decline. __________________
About a year after my retirement I attended a retirement lunch. There were about 100 people there and I remembered the names of 5 or so.

While working I had the same difficulty: I had to recall (and connect) names, faces, physical locations, job descriptions, professional relationships... It was difficult and fatiguing.
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