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Re: Motivation, Inspiration, and Education
Old 08-07-2005, 01:15 PM   #21
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I remember Tom Corbet!* Bought a couple of books in used book stores, one in Vancouver, BC, I remember the experience to this day.

The author was a West Pointer.* When I was stationed at The Point (as an EM at HQ company, not as a cadet), I found a study room in the library reserved for the guy (can't remember his name today).* Similar to the reverence that the US Naval Academy has for Bob Heinlein (but considerably lower key; probably because not as successful). Ed
I don't know Tom Corbett, but this website claims that a Heinlein book inspired the series which got Joseph Greene going on the books. And apprently there are other schools with a Joseph Greene Hall.

Heinlein never got along well with the administration and he didn't have the WWII record that the rest of his class acquired. So I doubt he'll ever have a pile of bricks named after him, but he did endow a professorship, he's part of USNA's reading list, and he has an exhibit in the Nimitz Library. His reputation probably gets more impressive every year...
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Re: Motivation, Inspiration, and Education
Old 08-07-2005, 01:51 PM   #22
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Re: Motivation, Inspiration, and Education

Wondered when someone was going to catch that.

Heh, heh, heh, heh

The cousin's book was about a space cadet/space academy - and it never sold that well. Don't remember the name he used.
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Re: Motivation, Inspiration, and Education
Old 08-07-2005, 02:22 PM   #23
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More on-topic.* Had to think about this a little.* It has been a while.

Bored, I had trouble with learning multiplication tables by wrote.* Mom showed me algebra and all of a sudden math got a LOT more interesting.* I remember that event very clearly.* Mom was a nurse and dad was a forest ranger with a diverse background.

Learned to read early as the folks had a lot of books and encouraged it.* I was introverted and read everything!

Later found Mathematical Recreations column (Martin Gardner?) in Scientific American and the column about do-it-yourself science in the same rag.* *Went nuts over that.* Became interested in chemistry, crystals, rocket fuels.* A family friend gave me a chemistry set for Christmas.* I went nuts again.* (Started a steady interest in stuff that goes boom.* Should have lost an eye or fingers over the years, but didn't.* Later worked with a guy that blew his fingers off as a kid.* There but for the grace of God....)

Discovered libraries in grade school and went nuts.* Our town (Portland, OR) had superb libraries.* Found the stacks and read SciAm on microfilm back to God-knows-when.* *Found books on mathematical recreations and similar.

Discovered used book stores (Portland had some wonderful old shops back then; I started at the Farmers' Market on Saturday morning).* Collected old SciAm and National Geographics.

Became fascinated by the history of technology, the industrial revolution, mining,* chemistry from agriculture or "chemurgy" (GW Carver, etc.), history in general plus art, especially sculpture, metal sculpture and mobiles (Sandy Calder, the inventor of mobiles, was originally trained as a draftsman--or mechanical engineer; accounts differ).* Still crazy about metal sculpture and mobiles.* Looking to buy an acetylene torch in retirement.* Would today, but I am never home.

Had no use for fiction other than SF at that time.

Oh, yeah.* Read Uncle Scrooge comic books.* Got half my vocabulary from them at the time.* * (Wonder where they all went?)

In grade school at the time of the space race and eventually Sputnik, schools were emphasizing math and science.* Our schools were especially good.* (However, I have been astounded at the improvement in math and science and history books that my kids have had compared to mine, but the motivation seems to be flagging.* Nothing like the Cold War to stimulate interest.* Man, I would love to have had those books when I was their age!)

Overall, primary credit goes to my parents for being inspirational, motivational and supportive and giving us a guided exposure to the natural world.* (They showed great patience with my rock collection that grew when we travelled by car across the US and when I bought a pin ball machine on vacation on the other side of the country and turned it into a simple computer, nailing the relays to boards.* They let me haul that back home, too.* Man, the springs on that old Ford staion wagon were bottomed out!)* Second, I had a stimulating environment outside the home growing up.

OK, that is more than anyone wanted to hear, but it was fun for me to go back and relive it.

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Old 08-07-2005, 02:40 PM   #24
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Re: Motivation, Inspiration, and Education

Nords:

My stars and little comets! All I remember about TC was a couple of hardback books. That TC website is encyclopedic. The web is amazing. I am wondering about my 35+ year-old memories now. Gotta read that site more thoroughly.

JG:

I became an engineer when I realized that I was unsuited for honest work.

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Nords:

My stars and little comets!* All I remember about TC was a couple of hardback books.* That TC website is encyclopedic.* The web is amazing.* I am wondering about my 35+ year-old memories now.* Gotta read that site more thoroughly.

JG:

I became an engineer when I realized that I was unsuited for honest work.

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What turned me around was the lure of a paycheck. Once I started
getting real money for what I did, workaholism kicked in and never wavered
until I retired. So, I dogged it big-time through school, then kicked
it into overdrive for 30+ years, and now I am back to lazy slacker.
I have truly come full circle.

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For me it was definately the chemistry set! I soon discovered that you couldnt get into much trouble with it. So off to the library then later to the drug store for the good chemicals... then ordering glassware and having it delivered to the house via Railway Express (remember them?).

It wasnt cool to tell kids in school that you played with a chemistry but I found out that my new best friend also loved chemistry, and he was playing with condensers!!!!!!! I couldnt afford a big condenser but his dad was a doctor and the chemistry set budget was awesome. You can see where this is going.

But it started my love for science (and alcohol?) but I didnt like math until my uncle gave me a "Math Games" book. That got me going, but not nearly as much as my high school Trig. teacher Miss Garcia...WOW


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JG,

Actually, I found out that I could be paid very well for doing something that I loved to do.

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JG,

Actually, I found out that I could be paid very well for doing something that I loved to do.*

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Before I ERed, I loved sex, motorcycles, fishing and hunting
(not necessarily in that order) . Never figured out how to be paid
very well to do these things. In fact, they all cost a lot of money in
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Before I ERed, I loved sex, motorcycles, fishing and hunting
(not necessarily in that order) . Never figured out how to be paid
very well to do these things. In fact, they all cost a lot of money in
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Then you obviously didn't explore a career in movies!
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