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Old 10-15-2006, 03:16 AM   #21
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A major reason for the avalanche of negative ads is the McCain-Feingold campaign "reform" law. Now big contributors start their own 527 organizations that can do anything except coordinate with the candidate they are supporting and use that candidate's name in their advertising. No restrictions on mudslinging against opposing canditates. Voila--a sure-fire recipe for increasing negative campaigning.

I sure can't see how this law is not a restriction of free speech. It sure hasn't done anything to clean up campaigns or to reduce the impact of money in politics as its supporters claimed it would.




Good observation, and this law CLEARLY chips away at The First
Amendment. But, the whole Bill of Rights is under assault and
(as you regulars are painfully aware, I believe the BOR will
disappear eventually.
I'm talking as a practical useful document. It might still be on the books
but will be gutted (nutted?) Sorry, that slipped out.

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Old 11-01-2006, 05:07 PM   #22
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A week before the election and the floodgates at the mud damn have been opened wide! On the radio this morning it was one nasty attack ad after another. One was an ad for Rick Perry that was bashing Chris Bell as being "too liberal for Texas" It was a takeoff on the Budweiser "we salute you the real men of genius" commercials. Except in this version Bell is "saluted" as being "Mr. Way Too Liberal for Texas Guy".

I never thought much of Chris Bell before he ran for office and he never did anything as a city councilman of congressman that made me change that opinion. So, he's not in danger of losing my vote since he never had it anyway - but I wonder if ads like this affect how people vote.

Text of ad: http://www.perryvsworld.com/item/582
Audio Link (not working when I tried):http://www.rickperry.org/audio/MrWayTooLiberal.mp3

I think the ads are funny, and attention getting - but I'm not sure how much, if any, of it is true.

Edited to add this: I guess our mudslinging is tame compared to the rest of the country:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/4294893.html
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:26 PM   #23
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I'm still curious if all parts of the country are seeing the increase in pure mud slinging commercials.
Hi Sgeeee,
Increase No... here in Las Vegas it has been that way for the past 10 years, maybe more, no one tells the truth they all lie, no one has an answer for anything and when they have an answer it is always about things they can't do anything about. There all mouth pieces !!!!! When they do get elected into office they end up getting caught with there fingers in the till. Not an honest one in the whole bunch...what is the saying "power corrupts...absolute power corrupts absolutely.." They usually say people forget but I don't, I hear them all repeating the same crap over and over and over again year after year after year... nothing changes...

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Perfect example........the Governor's race in Illinois.
It doesn't really matter whether Judy or Rod win the race....either way (IMHO) the peeps of IL lose! Neither one of them has said what they, themselves stand for or hope to accomplish if elected. They just keep telling us that the other one is the embodiment of evil. Well, DUH!!! We already knew THAT!!! They're politicians for cripes sake!!! All the election does here is determine which one will be our next elected convicted governor!!!

We ought to just get to go to the IDOC and choose an inmate for Gov, that way we get our crook and we don't have to pay all those court costs and attorney fees later on.....i.e. George "Lyin'" Ryan.
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Negative ads are as part of American culture as baseball and apple pie. Been going on since the colonial times. Only one more week left. Then what we will we do?
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I live in Ohio, and the attack ads are amazing.

BTW, The Daily Show is broadcasting from Columbus this week, and doing some wonderful analysis.
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351 BC: Demosthenes spoke of Philip II as, “. . . not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors.

44 BC: Cicero smears Mark Antony in his 2nd oration, “As Helen was to the Trojans, so has that man been to this republic – the cause of war, the cause of mischief, the cause of ruin.

1775: mudslinging is documented in European plays and opera: “Calumniate! Calumniate! Something will always come of it,” advised Don Basilio in ‘The Barber of Seville’. Calumniate is defined as charge falsely or with malicious intent; attack the good name and reputation of someone.

I guess there is a long tradition of mudslinging.
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Negative ads are as part of American culture as baseball and apple pie. Been going on since the colonial times. Only one more week left. Then what we will we do?
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Negative ads are as part of American culture as baseball and apple pie. Been going on since the colonial times. Only one more week left. Then what we will we do?
I think they should bring back dueling. It would cut down on the number of politicians.

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We ought to just get to go to the IDOC and choose an inmate for Gov, that way we get our crook and we don't have to pay all those court costs and attorney fees later on.....i.e. George "Lyin'" Ryan.
This is an excellent idea, as long as they stay locked up at least until their
term (in office) is up.

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Wow, that's a stretch. We've had actors as governors of major states
and even President.

Trivia question of the day................. Does anyone know what movie starred both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jessie Ventura?

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I think they should bring back dueling. It would cut down on the number of politicians.

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I think they should bring back dueling. It would cut down on the number of politicians. JG
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