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Old 07-03-2015, 08:42 PM   #61
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Cars.com has a tool to compare up to 4 cars with detailed specs like leg room

Here's the TDI, Sonata, Optima and an accord , 2013 Hyundai Sonata vs. 2013 Kia Optima vs. 2013 Honda Accord vs. 2013 Volkswagen Jetta

I picked 2013 because you can usually get a good deal on a 3-4yr used ( check carmax )

The Hyundai and Kia both appear to have a good bit of front leg room ( more than the VW )
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Old 07-03-2015, 11:18 PM   #62
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I guess car manufacturers assume all tall people have a lot of money. All those cars are bigger, higher end, cars. I assume smaller cars have to save space in the back seat by removing space in the driver seat? Maybe I should look at cars that have no back seat like the Smart fortwo? Are there any other cars that don't have a back seat and get very high gas mileage?
Wow... higher end.....


I would not put a Ford Fusion as a higher end vehicle...

You can get a cheap Altima or Sonata....

Heck, you do not have to get a sedan.... go for a small SUV and get plenty of room....
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Wow... higher end.....


I would not put a Ford Fusion as a higher end vehicle...

You can get a cheap Altima or Sonata....

Heck, you do not have to get a sedan.... go for a small SUV and get plenty of room....
When I said higher end, I meant within the make. For example, it lists a Ford Fusion. There's the Fiesta, then the Focus...then the Fusion. That makes the Fusion higher end for Ford. The list was like that for all the makes. The model listed was at least 2 models from the low end making it higher end.

Small SVU is my preferred vehicle except for gas mileage. I'm trying to find something that fits my legs AND gets over 35MPG. A lower end SUV(which is all I could afford) won't have that high of MPG.
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When I said higher end, I meant within the make. For example, it lists a Ford Fusion. There's the Fiesta, then the Focus...then the Fusion. That makes the Fusion higher end for Ford. The list was like that for all the makes. The model listed was at least 2 models from the low end making it higher end.

Small SVU is my preferred vehicle except for gas mileage. I'm trying to find something that fits my legs AND gets over 35MPG. A lower end SUV(which is all I could afford) won't have that high of MPG.
Yea... I guess if you are looking at it like that.... but I would call them middle cars...

I look at high end like Audi, BMW, Mercedes.... you know, $40K and up...


But a small car is a small car... there is not much ability to have 'space' when you get down that small....


LOL.... I just remembered a TV show... will have to look up the name... but two guys who buy old cars and fix them up.... the guy who fixes them up is like 6'6".... he was driving a really small convertible and his head was sticking up over the windshield.... he was wearing goggles... looked funny as heck... SOOOOO, there is that option...
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But a small car is a small car... there is not much ability to have 'space' when you get down that small.
Maybe I could get a small car with great gas mileage then have a shop take out the drivers seat and move the track back so the seat will go back all the way to the back seat. I have no need for leg room to be available behind the drivers seat. Any idea how much something like that would cost. Assume it's a lower end car with manual seats, nothing electrical.
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Aaron, I realize this doesn't fit all the criteria you listed, but wanted to suggest test driving a Subara Forrester.
I recently rode in one with a friend in Minnesota. Head and leg room seemed almost spacious. Comfort was excellent due to the seat bolsters. Gas mileage better than average according to him.

I saw many Subarus in that area. Probably because of the all wheel drive. Pretty gnarly driving in winter I suspect. Not sure if that would be something useful to you or not.

Anyway, wanted to toss the idea out there.
Best of luck in your search...........
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Maybe I could get a small car with great gas mileage then have a shop take out the drivers seat and move the track back so the seat will go back all the way to the back seat. I have no need for leg room to be available behind the drivers seat. Any idea how much something like that would cost. Assume it's a lower end car with manual seats, nothing electrical.
Maybe you could rig up something like this:

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Maybe I could get a small car with great gas mileage then have a shop take out the drivers seat and move the track back so the seat will go back all the way to the back seat. I have no need for leg room to be available behind the drivers seat. Any idea how much something like that would cost. Assume it's a lower end car with manual seats, nothing electrical.
Ooh, I like the way you're thinking. I would honestly try to do this yourself as you'll probably have to keep checking position to see if it's working. Do you have a handy friend to help? I imagine all you'd need to do is remove the carpeting, unbolt the rails, push them back, and drill in new bolt holes and replace the carpet. You'd want a ramp, so you could see what is going on below and don't drill into the muffler or anything. You'd also likely need a variety of washers and spacers to keep the rails level in their new position. And some sort of primer or cold-galv to protect the new holes you just added to your car.

Check YouTube, someone may have already submitted this exact exercise.

If you and/or a friend has a drill and ramp (seemed everyone had a set of ramps for oil changes when I was young), then all you would need would be maybe $15 in hardware and primer. Plus grubby clothes and a few hours to suss through it.
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Maybe I could get a small car with great gas mileage then have a shop take out the drivers seat and move the track back so the seat will go back all the way to the back seat. I have no need for leg room to be available behind the drivers seat. Any idea how much something like that would cost. Assume it's a lower end car with manual seats, nothing electrical.
I think that's your best bet. Try googling, or maybe go to a body shop and ask about it.


Hmmmm, in this day and age, might be liability concerns about the seat belts and air bags?

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Maybe I could get a small car with great gas mileage then have a shop take out the drivers seat and move the track back so the seat will go back all the way to the back seat.
My specs are pretty close to yours (roughly same height, and mostly legs). For me, the problem with this plan is that I wouldn't be able to comfortably reach the steering wheel, since most don't telescope back far enough.

I don't want to hijack this thread, but would love to hear where you've found good jeans that fit. I'm lost ever since Lucky Jeans stopped making anything in extra-long length.
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Yes, and you would be putting your life/body at risk. The belt position and airbag distance to face are , I am sure, calculated to be optimal. Side airbags that deploy where they are not intended would not be a good thing.

Unless you are going to be hacking up a 64 Chevy II, then have at it...
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Aaron, I realize this doesn't fit all the criteria you listed, but wanted to suggest test driving a Subara Forrester.
I recently rode in one with a friend in Minnesota. Head and leg room seemed almost spacious. Comfort was excellent due to the seat bolsters. Gas mileage better than average according to him.

I saw many Subarus in that area. Probably because of the all wheel drive. Pretty gnarly driving in winter I suspect. Not sure if that would be something useful to you or not.

Anyway, wanted to toss the idea out there.
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I've been driving a Forester since February 2005. I stupidly chose the turbo version and get 22 MPG (of premium fuel) on the highway if I keep it under 70. If it got 32 instead of 22 i'd keep it another 10+ years
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I don't want to hijack this thread, but would love to hear where you've found good jeans that fit. I'm lost ever since Lucky Jeans stopped making anything in extra-long length.
Back when I was young and stupid I got $60 jeans from Eddie Bauer. Now I get jeans from Walmart.com for $20 or less. The two pair I bought about 3 years ago will last several more years. I don't care about fashion. I wear $5-10 t-shirts and the cheapest jeans that fit. If it's cold I wear a $15 hoodie with no logo. I don't buy one in every color, I buy ONE.
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I've been driving a Forester since February 2005. I stupidly chose the turbo version and get 22 MPG (of premium fuel) on the highway if I keep it under 70. If it got 32 instead of 22 i'd keep it another 10+ years
The new Forester (starting with 2014), non-turbo with CVT, get 30 or so, especially if you keep it under 70.
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Or carry an extra gallon/quart(s) for those rare times you won't get to a source in time.

So now diesels have 'range anxiety'! What's this world coming to!

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When I said higher end, I meant within the make. For example, it lists a Ford Fusion. There's the Fiesta, then the Focus...then the Fusion. That makes the Fusion higher end for Ford. The list was like that for all the makes. The model listed was at least 2 models from the low end making it higher end.
The Fusion is actually in the middle. At the higher end is the Ford Mustang (sports car), C-Max (super-efficient), and the Taurus (full-size).
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i GET 32 in my miata @75 on the slab, 29 in town. I'm 6' and the seat is not all the way back.
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The Fusion is actually in the middle. At the higher end is the Ford Mustang (sports car), C-Max (super-efficient), and the Taurus (full-size).
A Fusion hybrid is rated for 40 mpg on the highway.
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I've been driving a Forester since February 2005. I stupidly chose the turbo version and get 22 MPG (of premium fuel) on the highway if I keep it under 70. If it got 32 instead of 22 i'd keep it another 10+ years
You will never save the difference in money by trading in an old used car on a new $20k car. Just keep what you have if you still like it.
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A Fusion hybrid is rated for 40 mpg on the highway.
Yes. It is.
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