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Old 10-20-2007, 11:23 AM   #1
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New dishwasher recommendation?

Spouse and I have been lucky enough to own one of Maytag's coveted "fireball" models as described on their recall website: MaytagŪ and Jenn-AirŪ brand dishwashers.

It just celebrated its 7th birthday of rinse-aid-free use so we could probably continue to use it indefinitely, but inevitably some uninformed user would light its fire (so to speak) and it's probably smart to get it taken care of despite the hassle factor. Here are our options:
- Repair: 'If you choose the Free-In Home Repair option, a service call will be required to return your dishwasher to safe operating condition. Once service is scheduled, you will receive a service kit in the mail which will contain replacement wiring and an interior door. Do not open the kit or try to install the parts.'
(This option has the added attraction of requiring the coordination of both a service call AND a delivery!)
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- $75 back on a new dishwasher: 'If you choose this option you will receive a voucher which may be redeemed for $75.00 cash back following the purchase of a new Maytag brand, Jenn-Air brand, Whirlpool brand or KitchenAid brand dishwasher. The voucher will arrive within 7 business days. To receive your reimbursement, you must return the completed voucher, the model and serial number of your new dishwasher, your sales receipt, and the original signed 'Proof of Destruction Affirmation.'

Given the dishwasher's age we're leaning toward the "new" option. We have zero brand loyalty and we're mainly interested in (1) quiet and (2) Energy Star certification. Our hot water is free (solar water heater) so we don't care whether or not the dishwasher has its own water heater-- ours is regularly 130 degrees or hotter.

Of course Dave Barry would also have a lot of fun with the "Proof of Destruction Affirmation", but it sounds like Maytag will eventually make that happen whether or not we continue to use its equipment.

Spouse has informed me that we want a black door.

Anyone have a favorite Maytag, Jenn-Air, Whirlpool, or KitchenAid model? Anything about any of these brands that's particularly annoyed you in the last couple years?
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Old 10-20-2007, 11:34 AM   #2
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No, I don't have any of those models, but just as an aside, I have this comment - - -

My house came with a Kenmore "Ultra Wash II" dishwasher installed. It is fabulous, washes the dishes amazingly well, and is not very noisy. I was thrilled! But I was surprised to discover that Consumer Reports didn't think it was especially wonderful. How could that be?

My thinking is that dishwashers in general have improved SO much in recent years that most newer dishwashers are probably tremendously improved over the 30-year-old models. That is probably why it seems so terrific to me. Otherwise, I am at a loss to explain it.

By the way, it has a black door and it is at least 5 years old since that is when I bought my house.

OK, to get more precisely back on topic, does anybody here have a favorite Maytag, Jenn-Air, Whirlpool, or KitchenAid model? Anything about any of these brands that's particularly annoyed you in the last couple years?
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I don't have any suggestions, except to logon to the Consumer's Report website and see what they recommend. However, I do have an observation about the current generation of dishwashers: they don't dry plastic. The rationale given to me by a long-time repair person is that the new energy saving design is to use the heat retained by china and cutlery for drying. Plastic doesn't hold heat. Essentially, you get a no(or next to nothing)-heat dry.

Hey, I mastered that technique when the dishwasher was kid duty (mine). I just abandoned the dishes in the drying rack until I could return them to the cupboard with a quick swipe of the dish towel. Very energy efficient.

Quiet-wise they have gotten much better. No harm in sticking more insulation around the cabinet before you install the new one for good measure. Daughter spec'd a GE PDW 988OLSS 47db with sound deading package for her new digs. "SS" indicates stainless steel.
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'Spouse has informed me that we want a black door.'

Ahh, now we all know that in 7 years, white or stainless doors will be the 'in' thing.

We got a Sears DW, CR rated them highly for the price, and we are happy. I don't know who actually makes them though.

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I bought a Kitchen Aid 31 years ago and it worked great for 26 years. Only one repair in all that time. We bought a new Kitchen Aid 5 years ago and it was terrible, just never cleaned the way the old one did.

We sold our house and when we moved into our new house there was a Kenmore already in place. It works great and we have no problems at all.
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We replaced the 20 year old Whirlpool dishwasher with another Whirlpool about two and a half years ago. It's an Energy Star Quiet Partner II.

Seems like it cost around $400. No problems so far though I have to admit I do not use the dry cycle. I go for air drying.
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I have great pride in having made a box full of water catch fire once.

Whirlpool or the whirlpool made kenmore. Bosch is nice, but expensive.

Go to the sears web site and search for item number DU1061XTSB. Thats pretty much what we put in my old house and we liked it. Its a model down from what I put in our new house. Quiet, cost about 20c a load with all the buttons pushed on, about 17c with minimal cycle time and no heated dry.

Got a costco membership? They sell whirlpool for a good price, but check the delivery dates. Last time I looked at them there was a 3 week delivery time quoted.
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I have a two year old Maytag tall tub . I love the tall tub design .It holds so many more dishes and odd shaped platters .The Maytag is fine .It does a good job cleaning and it is quiet .The cycle seems to be longer than any other dishwasher I've had . My last dishwasher was a whirpool which I lked a lot .
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We replaced the 20 year old Whirlpool dishwasher with another Whirlpool about two and a half years ago. It's an Energy Star Quiet Partner II.

Seems like it cost around $400. No problems so far though I have to admit I do not use the dry cycle. I go for air drying.
I had an Energy Star Quiet Partner II installed 7.5 years ago. No problems.
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Cool...sounds like we have something else in common.
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We have almost 7 years on a Frigidaire Gallery model. Main irritant on that one is that the door has a flush handle release - makes it difficult to open the door - nothing to really grasp to pull the door open, tricky if you have wet paws.
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We have a Maytag - three levels each with their own wash arm. Total trouble. We have replaced both the wash and drain motors, some of the cleaning arms (all under warranty) and it still doesn't clean well. Leaves grit in the glasses on the top level.

Nords, let me know what you decide, DH and I are ready to give up. We are tired of taking leave to meet the repairman, listening to my kids pull glass after glass out of the cabinet saying "yuck!," "this is dirty" "next" for the ones we missed rewashing before putting them away.
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I have this KitchenAid in stainless steel (but here's a link to the black version)
KUDT03FTBL KitchenAid Architect II Built-In Dishwasher Fully Integrated Console - Black

It is very quiet (50 decibels); you don't even hear it running, has Energy Star rating, is high capacity and does an excellent job of cleaning even baked on stuff. I've had it for two years and am very pleased with it.
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In addition to Maytag's $75 rebate, HECO will pay us another $50 for anything off EnergyStar.gov.

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I have this KitchenAid in stainless steel (but here's a link to the black version)
KUDT03FTBL KitchenAid Architect II Built-In Dishwasher Fully Integrated Console - Black
It is very quiet (50 decibels); you don't even hear it running, has Energy Star rating, is high capacity and does an excellent job of cleaning even baked on stuff. I've had it for two years and am very pleased with it.
We did a little window-shopping today and they all look good, but I really like this model. All those water jets would probably peel the cover off a golfball.

Of course Lowes needs 4-6 weeks from the Mainland to get the model with a black door. So next we'll try Home Depot, and I'm sure someone on Craigslist will be selling a HD gift card at less than face value.
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We have a middle line kenmore (whirlpool). So far so good.
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We just got our first dishwasher ever in 2006. It is an Asko and I like it (I am the designated scullery maid), because it is quiet, energy efficient and cleans the dishes really well. We got a special door to match the kitchen cabinetry. Based on my investigations when we were looking, it was the best constructed of the lot.

This is the model D3251FI & D3251XLFI ASKO Dishwashers
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We did a little window-shopping today and they all look good, but I really like this model. All those water jets would probably peel the cover off a golfball.
Don't know about golf balls, but I did put a jelly jar with the label on it thru one of the cycles and when I took the jar out, the label was gone....not merely off the glass, I'm talking chewed up, spit out and washed away!
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We went with the quietest model we could find which at the time was a KitchenAid. After enduring a builder grade (sounded like a 747) model. We sprung for the extra quiet version and are glad we did.
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I was holding my breath hoping that our Maytag dishwasher was one of the ones being recalled. Unfortunately, it isn't. I would not buy another Maytag. Ours is extremely loud and does not always clean as well as I think that it should. My sister has a Bosch and I was very impressed by it. I could not believe that it was running, since it was so quiet. They are expensive though. I will be interested to hear what you buy and how you like it also.
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We got a Sears DW, CR rated them highly for the price, and we are happy. I don't know who actually makes them though.

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Same here. A Sears dishwasher with a "665" prefix before the decimal point in the model number was made by Whirlpool.

Sometime I think I need to take the door apart on ours, the rinse dispenser dispensing is getting iffy. Probably getting gunked up with rinse aid. Had this problem with other dishwashers, with enough time.
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