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Old 02-22-2006, 08:15 PM   #21
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A 17 inch laptop is bigger than my desktop!* - I have a 15 inch LCD for my Desktop and a 10.8 inch screen for my Lappy.

SIze matters - I like small!
I have one of each.* *A small one for portability (used about 5% of the time), a big one for a desktop replacement (used about 75% of the time), and a desktop (used about 20% of the time).* * Life would suck if I had to give up any of the three.

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I did have a dream or something where someone kept yelling "wait for merom!* wait for merom!"...
This sounds like FUD to me.* *The "secret" errata you're talking about sounds like the fairly well-reported rumors that Yonah is Merom with some of the still-broken functional units disabled.* * That doesn't bother me.* *I don't need 64-bitness, for example.* * But if you're saying that there are serious errata in the userland microcode, for example, then Intel has set themselves up for a recall, and I'd be surprised if those kind of bugs are present.* * PM the details if you have any specific examples of bugs in the enabled functional units.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:16 PM   #22
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Innuendo? Isn't that an Italian suppository?

I'm glad i'm sitting on the patio and dont have to explain why i'm laughing so hard that tears have started flowing...
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This sounds like FUD to me. The "secret" errata you're talking about sounds like the fairly well-reported rumors that Yonah is Merom will some of the still-broken functional units disabled. That doesn't bother me. I don't need 64-bitness, for example. But if you're saying that there are serious errata in the userland microcode, for example, then Intel has set themselves up for a recall, and I'd be surprised if those kind of bugs are present. PM the details if you have any specific examples of bugs in the enabled functional units.
You're right, I dont know a thing and why would I? What I do know is that I surely wouldnt disclose trade secret/confidentiality information someone might have leaked to me...although of course that never would have happened.

You could have noted that my recent attempt to buy from the lords of hell...errr...dell...was for a fast dothan, not a yonah. Given that the same spec of the latter could have been had for about the same cost...you might wonder why...?

But nevermind...enjoy your new laptop!
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:21 PM   #24
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If what you're saying is true, rather than buying a Dothan, you should be shorting INTC.
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Yep. Rigidity matters...

Good lord, another informative thread gone porno...
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Good lord, another informative thread gone porno...
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Protested the demure lady with avatars that would make a longshoreman blush...

Truthfully... I get a little miffed when I'm not part of the disenegration (sp?) aspect of a perfectly good thread.

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If what you're saying is true, rather than buying a Dothan, you should be shorting INTC.
Oh i'm sure its nothing that bad. If I were speculating, I'd say it just wasnt quite ready, but apple wanted to launch and the other oems didnt want to be cut out if apple was going to have them, yada yada yada.

You've gotta get the product to market, the 64 bit cores on the new design are out in 6-8 months, 10, 12, maybe 20 million dollars to redo the silicon on the old design to fix some glitches that realistically, not many people may see and if they do, may not know what the heck happened and just reboot...

You do know the yonah has a slashed up 64 bit core, yes? In fact, perhaps some of the things they did to bury that might be the source of the problem. Not that I'd know. I havent really looked into it, but there might be a way to enable the 64 bit extensions.

Just because I know you like to roll the machines over, an orphaned lower speed half cored machine might not be worth as much once the meroms ship and people see that a 2.xGhz dothan is as fast or faster for most things...

But if you're sure i'm just being silly, as could easily be the case, then dont worry!
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You know better than I do that players like Dell (and now Apple, I suppose) drive Intel's release schedule. I'm sure that's why Intel has already announced that Merom has slipped. Dell doesn't want to cycle product that fast.

And you also know better than I do that Intel has played the "slashed up core" game forever. Hell, I even remember when they tried to disable real mode on the 386 and push that as a 32-bit embedded product.

And, finally, you know that there are enough people around at Intel that remember the FDIV fiasco that they validate the crap out of userland stuff.

So, am I worried about Yonah being a crippled pre-release Merom? No.
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And, finally, you know that there are enough people around at Intel that remember the FDIV fiasco that they validate the crap out of userland stuff.
Dont bet on that. Not even a buck.
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perhaps some of the things they did to bury that might be the source of the problem
Just send me a few bytes in hex. You'll have plausible deniability. I'll be famous.

Anyway, the system just shipped today. I should be able to start poking at it next week.

I sort of like the idea of dual core. I'll rip some DVDs and see if I can still download porn at the same time. Or something. I don't want to wait for merom.

If I start seeing spontaneous reboots, I'll hook up an in-circuit emulator, short INTC like mad, and then publish my findings here (for a share of the AdSense revenue it will generate).
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In theory it should have some nice benefits, especially once developers start coding for it. One of the biggest problems with some OS's and some applications is blocking threads that just sit and wait for something to happen, but disallow some other things to happen. Having a second core to pick up the slack certainly helps a bit.

If those DVD's are porn dvd's, the second core wont help at all. It'll consider both tasks too similar to engage.

Are you saying that you dont have any patience? I have patience...i just hate to wait.
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Woohoo!* *I got the laptop on Friday, and I've been playing with it all weekend.

I posted my review on a laptop forum under one of my many noms de plume:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=136774
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You have little stubby fingers!
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Woohoo!* *I got the laptop on Friday, and I've been playing with it all weekend.

I posted my review on a laptop forum under one of my many noms de plume:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=136774
Fine review.* I hope you got paid for that.
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I hope you got paid for that.
Only in karma and 12-year-old geeks giving me "gjgj's" (good job, for the non-12-year-olds in the audience). There is a site that pays for reviews, but that would make it W-O-R-K.
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Woohoo!* *I got the laptop on Friday, and I've been playing with it all weekend.

I posted my review on a laptop forum under one of my many noms de plume:

http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=136774
The review was too long to read, but I liked the Walpertinger icon of the post that followed yours.
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* The review was too long to read...
Yeah, I'm not sure how that happened. It took me way longer to read than it did to write. I threw in a couple of pictures of Vida Guerra to make it more interesting.
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