New Obama thread

[shiny]

I did not want to dignify the previously titled Obama thread with a response, so that is why I started a new one.

DH and I went to see him last night. It was part of his book tour - it was the biggest crowd for the book tour so far.

A lot of this may be projecting on my part, but I see him as the genuine article. He seems very sincere, funny and so intelligent. I believe that he is above the partisan bickering - time will tell I guess.

He signed my book and shook my hand and smiled a beautiful smile at me - I like this guy!

[d]

i agree that he is, to date, quite impressive. but it is what has not yet been said that will be the deciding factor in his political future. need to wait and watch.

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by shiny I did not want to dignify the previously titled Obama thread with a response, so that is why I started a new one. DH and I went to see him last night. It was part of his book tour - it was the biggest crowd for the book tour so far. A lot of this may be projecting on my part, but I see him as the genuine article. He seems very sincere, funny and so intelligent. I believe that he is above the partisan bickering - time will tell I guess. He signed my book and shook my hand and smiled a beautiful smile at me - I like this guy!

The american population elected GW Bush TWO TIMES!!!

His only real experience was being his fathers son and a bad gov of Texas.

RUN OBAMA RUN!!!

[youbet]

How about a Clinton/Obama ticket? After 8 yrs of Hillary as Pres, Obama could move up from his VP slot and take his turn for 8 yrs. He's a young guy and that scenario would give him 16 yrs in the White House. Anything more and we'd have to have a coronation.

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by youbet How about a Clinton/Obama ticket? After 8 yrs of Hillary as Pres, Obama could move up from his VP slot and take his turn for 8 yrs. He's a young guy and that scenario would give him 16 yrs in the White House. Anything more and we'd have to have a coronation.

I dunno, Hillary just does not do it for me. She should have left Bill, but then again what in the world do I know. The american people are not going to elect Obama, look what they did the past two elections.

I feel depressed about american politics.

[wallygator69]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 TWO TIMES!!!

Wow! You can count to two!

What the hell does FIRE have to do with political BS. Yeah, it's "other topics" but.....

I'd love to see a Political thread added to the forum..I'll donate $100.00 to help create it and have all political crap sent there.

I'm here to have fun, gain knowledge, not to be bored/annoyed with political commentary.

JFK was more Conservative than GWB. He's let the Republicans down in more instances/policies than I'd care to think about.

Still rather live here than any place in the world. Alec Baldwin even stuck around after flapping his' lips (assume you recall).

Dory, where do I send the check.

Thx,

W

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by wallygador69 Wow! You can count to two! What the hell does FIRE have to do with political BS. Yeah, it's "other topics" but..... I'd love to see a Political thread added to the forum..I'll donate $100.00 to help create it and have all political crap sent there. I'm here to have fun, gain knowledge, not to be bored/annoyed with political commentary. you can ignore my posts. got a problem? Geesh.. JFK was more Conservative than GWB. He's let the Republicans down in more instances/policies than I'd care to think about. Still rather live here than any place in the world. Alec Baldwin even stuck around after flapping his' lips (assume you recall). Dory, where do I send the check. Thx, W

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 I dunno, Hillary just does not do it for me. She should have left Bill, but then again what in the world do I know. The american people are not going to elect Obama, look what they did the past two elections.

Naw....... Hillary is not GWB. And "anybody but Bush" is the answer. Therefore Hillary is for you. Beside, for the moment, you almost live in New York.

Obama would take a lot of flack for his inexperience if running for Pres. But as VP....... hey, that's where he could get his experience. And with Bill back in the White House as First Gentleman, he'd be there as a mentor to guide him along. He could sit with him as he presides over the Senate whispering in his ear, etc. It'll be a snap for Bill and Obama could really learn all the ropes.

[dumpster56]

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Originally Posted by youbet Naw....... Hillary is not GWB. And "anybody but Bush" is the answer. Therefore Hillary is for you. Beside, for the moment, you almost live in New York. Obama would take a lot of flack for his inexperience if running for Pres. But as VP....... hey, that's where he could get his experience. And with Bill back in the White House as First Gentleman, he'd be there as a mentor to guide him along. He could sit with him as he presides over the Senate whispering in his ear, etc. It'll be a snap for Bill and Obama could really learn all the ropes.

and bush had experience??

Look I do NOt like Clinton!

So what will you say about that.

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by newguy888 and bush had experience??

Exactly. Bush failed to show you could handle the presidency without experience. I think that would be bad for Obama who also has little experience.

[Patrick]

The only people who have experience are the ones who have done the job. But most of them are dead or can't run again . . . .

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by Patrick The only people who have experience are the ones who have done the job. But most of them are dead or can't run again . . . .

There ya go. Hillary as Pres. Obama as VP with First Gentleman Bill as his mentor showing him the ropes and guiding him each step of the way.

[astromeria]

Shiny, wanna start again with the New, Improved Obama thread--with enhanced rant-fighting formula? : 8)

[donheff]

Hillary (President)
Barak (VP)
Bill C (Sec State)

Don't even think about responding Wallygator. If you were true to your statement you wouldn't be reading this thread

[Dreamer]

I really like Obama from what I have seen also. I like Hillary. I think that she is a very intelligent lady and she does have a lot of political experience. Unfortunately, I don't think that our country would elect her and I doubt that they would elect Obama either. I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that our country would elect either a female or a black to the presidency, but I think that there are still too many "good old boys" out there.

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by Dreamer I really like Obama from what I have seen also. I like Hillary. I think that she is a very intelligent lady and she does have a lot of political experience. Unfortunately, I don't think that our country would elect her and I doubt that they would elect Obama either. I sincerely hope that I am wrong and that our country would elect either a female or a black to the presidency, but I think that there are still too many "good old boys" out there.

Dreamer...... Why create a self-fulfilling prophesey? If they don't run, they can't win.

[Patrick]

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Originally Posted by donheff Hillary (President) Barak (VP) Bill C (Sec State) Don't even think about responding Wallygator. If you were true to your statement you wouldn't be reading this thread

Saw Ed Koch on Fox News this morning predicting it'll be Clinton vs. McCain. That would be interesting . . .

[Alex]

Personally, I'd like someome with experience as an executive. Obama has none. In fact he has less than 2 years in the Senate! and you guys are talking about Presidential aspirations? I have some land for sale in south Fla. Can I interest any of you Obama fans??

[haha]

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Originally Posted by shiny He signed my book and shook my hand and smiled a beautiful smile at me - I like this guy!

Did you have your husband along to restrain you?

Ha

[astromeria]

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Originally Posted by Alex Personally, I'd like someome with experience as an executive.

I'd like someone who can apply intelligence and good judgment to solving problems and moving in new directions, who treats all justly (no preferential treatment for the wealthy or the religious, for example), and who is capable of hiring great people and making great decisions--not necessarily a person with a specific previous job experience.

Someone who commands respect among national and world leaders--instead of in the frat house. Not someone whose father's friends/colleagues are needed time and again to set him up in business/government and bail him out of financial and governance mistakes. I want someone who actually understands economics and international relations, chooses wise and diverse advisors (and avoids yes-men), and shows a preference for rationality over irrationality, ethics over partisanship, and understands that what makes America great isn't rah-rah jingoism, but taking the Constitution seriously.

I don't know yet if Obama is this person, but I do know that he's a lot closer than the guy we're stuck with at the moment.