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Old 06-15-2014, 08:13 AM   #21
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Had mine replaced last year. 22 YO house had el-cheapo contractor-grade windows, at least two or three had broken seals and permanent condensation between the panes. All of them stuck anywhere from a bit to a lot.

I used a local company who manufactures them about five miles from my house. I had used them to install new vinyl handrails on my porch, and since they had done a good job and were responsive, I had a good feeling for them.

I'm quite happy with my new windows. While they aren't Pellas, they look good, operate well, and seem tight. I like how the screens are easy to remove and install from the inside. Since I only tend to open the bottom sashes, I only got the half screens.

Not a cheap project, but worth it IMHO.
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You will get what you pay for. We replaced all ours with Anderson and were very happy with the outcome. However, it is critical that you get and check out a reliable contractor. We bought ours at a local place and they gave us a contractor name. Person came over, seemed really good and said he was licensed. Turns out he was not, but we found that out before hiring him. A neighbor hired him for one window and door, and it took over a month.

Get a contractor experienced in replacements, this is different than placing windows in new build.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:15 AM   #23
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I have Pella windows....casement windows. My house is 15 years old now. I had the glass portion changed a couple of years ago because the seals were broken. Two good things... 1. I don't have many windows. 2.Only the hinged glass portion needed to be replaced, not the entire window.
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Old 06-15-2014, 09:17 AM   #24
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We've got a few Simonton Prism double-hung windows in the house. They're nice windows, very tight against cold winds.
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About ten years ago we installed double hung low-e vinyl replacements from Paradigm. No problems with them so far. Effective insulation from the elements and noise.
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I've done quite a bit of window work over the years, mostly new construction or major renovation which allowed me to use "new construction" type windows, rather than "replacement windows", such as Pella aluminum-wrapped wood, Weathershield, and other brands I don't remember. Most of it is irrelevant to intense-sun southern brick construction that goes on here.

Here I had dark bronze-colored aluminum frame windows, various grades have been used for years in new houses around here. They were narrow-spaced insulating glass, and created before thermal breaks. All single-hung, or fixed.

Materials - I talked with installers around here, they had stories of plastic (vinyl, PVC) windows sagging in the heat, especially wider windows, and custom's like large fan-lights, etc. The plastic windows are only available in white or very light colors to try to minimize the softening plastic problem. I did not want white, I wanted the dark bronze look, and I wanted strong durable quality windows. I asked around, as to who they would use in their house, if price was not a big issue. They said DYC aluminum frame, thermally broken. No plastic glazing bead on the outside to weather, the glass installs from the inside, different than most windows. Tilt-in sash for cleaning, screens remove from the inside. They are the 8200-series.

I visited the company's main sales office and factory in Dallas, and I knew someone who already had the windows installed for some years. They deal wholesale only, so they would not sell to me directly - darn! I asked for a few local window companies that they distribute to, and picked one to do the install. Around $11k for over 20 windows a few years ago, some of the windows are 8' tall. Most are setup as "replacement" windows, as they are in brick. The others I had them order with the nailing flange ("new construction"), as I was renovating wood siding areas, ripping off siding and replacing sheathing. I actually did the renovation work partially, and just screwed back on the old windows over the new sheathing till the new windows arrived.
These windows have wide, strong aluminum frames, 3/4" insulating low-e glass, metal parts everywhere. Definitely burglar-resistant.

Removal/Installation in brick. In original construction around here, the original aluminum windows had nailing flanges on them, and they were nailed through the sheathing into the studs on both sides of the window rough opening. Then the house was bricked, keeping the nominal 1" air space behind brick. Bricks were brought up just shy of the window frames, and mortared.
To remove window in brick, the glazing units are removed first. The poor method is a suction cup is attached and someone breaks the glass. Once enough shards are removed, the sash can be pulled out. The better method is one person inside pushes out, while another on the outside heats up the glass edge and old glazing bead with a torch. Once the bead is out, the glass is heated to soften the mastic, and then the glazing unit can be pushed and pulled out, usually in one piece, no shards.
Either way, once out, a thin pry bar is inserted into the frame about mid-way up, and the frame is bent inward enough to cut it with a reciprocating saw. Once cut, grabbing the frame end with pliers and using the pry bar, the window frame is ripped off of the nails that attached it to the house framing, working all around in a circle.

The "replacement" windows do not have a nailing flange, as there is no way to install a window with one, and no way to nail it. So a closed-cell foam insulating tape is wrapped around the new windows frame, and the new window is inserted into the opening. Once plumbed, a few screws are driven at an angle through the top and bottom of the window frame into header and rough sill (this is inside the window opening, not seen). Then the exterior frame is silicone-caulked to the brick with a matching color all the way around. Once that caulk cures, there is no way that window unit is coming out without major cutting and banging (I have seen it!)

For the "new construction" windows I needed, they were "replacement" windows that we slid in factory-supplied aluminum nailing flanges into the frame extrusions all the way around. They were just flange stock, we cut to length. I say "we", as the installers knew how to do replacements, but no matter how much they told me that had done new construction, they didn't. I always had to stop them, about to put a window up without the 6" wide sealing tape on the rough sill over the sheathing, or forgetting about putting a thin bead of silicone caulk on the back of all nailing flanges. It was easier for me to do it myself, they just lifted the window into the opening and plumbed it when I told them to.

I'm happy with the windows, I like the sturdy commercial look, and there have been no problems.

Sorry for writing a book here, but thought some may like to see some of the behind-the-scenes on windows.
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Timely subject. I need to do my windows also since they are not hurricane rated and I'd prefer to forgo using plywood. 13 average sized windows for 14k ....
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Timely subject. I need to do my windows also since they are not hurricane rated and I'd prefer to forgo using plywood. 13 average sized windows for 14k ....
I really would get a quote from Pella, they are the best...it is one of the items in the house I like the most as far as construction goes...
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We were looking at mid-range vinyl replacements and had settled on the Simonton windows.
I think that is the name of our windows and they said Corning makes them.
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As you are doing your homework, I would suggest you consider impact windows. Besides from extra security they help reduce the outside noise level in your home. Also would do the energy star windows as well.
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Replaced 19 of them last December…did my own research at the big box stores and the 2 main builder supply stores…made a decision on which windows and could have purchased them directly from the builder supply store BUT ONLY if I was doing the install….rather than play any games, I merely asked if they might supply recommendations for installers….got 3 or 4 and settled on a good ole boy who was not the cheapest and not the most expensive…

Bought mid grade Simonton Prism to replace 45 year old windows…one of the best things we ever did….noticable noise reduction….too earlier to be sure about heating and AC cost reductions BUT I have the thermostat set higher (up and down) this Spring and the comfort level is as good or better than before…

Hope things work as well for you!
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I have Andersons in my current residence. I am impressed with how thermally and acoustically insulating they are.
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Thanks for all of the comments and ideas to my original post.

We finally have decided to replace all of our windows with fiberglass constructed windows. Didn't like the look or quality of the vinyl windows. The one that we preferred were Infinity by Marvin ~ 20 windows for <$18K.

They had all of specific options and quality that we were looking for plus a few others that we learned about along the way. We looked @ 3 other companies and the range was $8K- $25K.
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We went though this 3 yrs ago. The forum below has a lot of good information about brands of windows and installation. The installation can be just as important as the brand of windows.

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We went though this 3 yrs ago. The forum below has a lot of good information about brands of windows and installation. The installation can be just as important as the brand of windows.

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Thanks lyle. Lots of good information and recommendations on this forum.
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Thanks for all of the comments and ideas to my original post.

We finally have decided to replace all of our windows with fiberglass constructed windows. Didn't like the look or quality of the vinyl windows. The one that we preferred were Infinity by Marvin ~ 20 windows for <$18K.

They had all of specific options and quality that we were looking for plus a few others that we learned about along the way. We looked @ 3 other companies and the range was $8K- $25K.
They sound perfect! Your cost is in the ballpark of what our old-fashioned extremely old double-hung windows cost to replace per window in 2009 and to replace four 25 year old casement windows with double-hung last year with exterior vinyl-clad wood Pella. Worth every penny in quiet, no more drafts, and overall coziness in general.
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I am starting the research as we are looking to replace our 30 (25 year old) windows. Aluminum, minimalist framed, double paned w/Argon gas which has failed in probably half of them in the last 2-3 years. We had replaced 4 windows about 13 years ago, but only the glass, not the entire window. I love the idea of being able to clean the windows from the inside so am looking at replacing the entire window rather than just the panes.

Was at a home show yesterday and talked to what I though was Renewal by Anderson, but learned, once I got home, that they are a general contractor, so am not sure what Renewal is vs. plain Andersen windows...a franchise?

When I asked what type of windows they offer allowing inside cleaning, he suggested 'self cleaning' windows. I almost burst out laughing until I realized he was dead serious. Apparently there is an oxide coating they spray on that repels the dirt. Has anyone heard of or have experience with how this works? I am very tempted to try this one the 2nd story windows.
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Our sliding glass door has a coating that repels dirt and water spots. I had my doubts but it really does work.
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+1 For Marvin windows.

We had 8 old Anderson double pane, double hungs replaced. Even with storm windows they leaked like a sieve.

The Marvins are custom built low E, triple pane. They hinge and open in. One lever for locking/unlocking and for tilt or opening selection. The inward opening was DW's requirement. Easy to clean both sides standing inside. The also have the tilt in capability, leaving a 4" gap at the top for ventilation, still keeping rain out. Of course removable screens came with it. Pretty expensive, worth every nickel.

A contractor recommended by Marvin did job.

We also replaced 4 doors, again by Marvin. A spplendid company to deal with.

FWIW - select the window manufacturer first, then ask for their recommended installers. Then get quotes.
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Our sliding glass door has a coating that repels dirt and water spots. I had my doubts but it really does work.
Thanks Sue. I did a lot of reading last night and this coating requires sunlight for chemical actions that need to take place for the coating to work. Not sure how much and if indirect is OK. Sun will be no problem for our south and west facing windows. However, our east facing windows get limited direct sunlight and I'm not sure about some of our north facing ones. Will check on that today and will have to do some more research. I LOVE the thought though!

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+1 For Marvin windows.

We had 8 old Anderson double pane, double hungs replaced. Even with storm windows they leaked like a sieve.

The Marvins are custom built low E, triple pane. They hinge and open in. One lever for locking/unlocking and for tilt or opening selection. The inward opening was DW's requirement. Easy to clean both sides standing inside. The also have the tilt in capability, leaving a 4" gap at the top for ventilation, still keeping rain out. Of course removable screens came with it. Pretty expensive, worth every nickel.

A contractor recommended by Marvin did job.

We also replaced 4 doors, again by Marvin. A spplendid company to deal with.

FWIW - select the window manufacturer first, then ask for their recommended installers. Then get quotes.
Thanks Is99...I've just started the research and made an appt with what I thought was Renewal by Anderson at the local home show. Found out that it's actually a general contractor. Haven't checked them out yet, but plan on canceling that appt. At a local women's expo this weekend, they had a different Andersen vendor and she claimed they are a franchise and they install in our area (SF Bay Area) exclusively :face palm:.

Home Depot was also represented at the Women's Expo and sells a number of brands, I am making an appt for them to come out to see what they have.

As I have some specific needs, I will be checking out many of the major brands and will be selecting the one that best meets our needs, reliability being at the top. Our local Nextdoor has a number of recommendations for installers. I plan on contacting those recommended by more than one neighbor.

It sounds like your Andersen windows had an issue with the installation. I'm surprised Andersen won't make it right.
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