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Old 12-28-2015, 07:43 AM   #741
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It was surprising that the Pats chose to kick after winning the OT coin toss since the offense was on a bit of a roll. However the defense had been playing well and just stopped the Jets on their last offensive series so I suspect that entered into the decision as well.

Not quite a Pete Carroll moment, but certainly questionable in hindsight.

We didn't get the game live, but I saw it on replay/highlights. It just looked like a brain fart to me.

I get those all the time.
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Old 12-28-2015, 08:22 AM   #742
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I actually liked the decision to kick. There's maybe a 15-20% chance the Jets score a TD and you lose, but the benefit is that you know what you need to do. If the Jets get a FG, you know you have to use all 4 downs all the way down the field. If you get the ball first and have a 4th and 6 you are going to punt and the Jets can win with a FG. If those 2 possessions are switched and the Jets already kicked a FG and you have that exact same 4th and 6, you know you have to go for it. You may tie the game up or win it with a TD when you wouldve given up by punting if you had the ball first. I'd rather get the ball second.
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Old 12-28-2015, 08:25 AM   #743
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All the Steelers had to do was beat a terrible Baltimore team and a terrible Cleveland team to storm into the playoffs at 11-5. They just beat Denver, Cincinnati and beat Arizona earlier in the season. Losing to Baltimore was sickening for me so I can just imagine how the actual players feel.

Lets see if Rex Ryan and Buffalo can beat his old team the Jets this week so Pittsburgh can still get in at 10-6. I have zero confidence in Ryan to do anything but keeping my fingers crossed.
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Old 12-28-2015, 08:38 AM   #744
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It was surprising that the Pats chose to kick after winning the OT coin toss since the offense was on a bit of a roll. However the defense had been playing well and just stopped the Jets on their last offensive series so I suspect that entered into the decision as well.

Not quite a Pete Carroll moment, but certainly questionable in hindsight.
I agree. Even one of the best coaches of all time makes a questionable decision. The defense was playing better than the offense but I would still put the football in the hands of my best player number 12.
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I actually liked the decision to kick. There's maybe a 15-20% chance the Jets score a TD and you lose, but the benefit is that you know what you need to do. If the Jets get a FG, you know you have to use all 4 downs all the way down the field. If you get the ball first and have a 4th and 6 you are going to punt and the Jets can win with a FG. If those 2 possessions are switched and the Jets already kicked a FG and you have that exact same 4th and 6, you know you have to go for it. You may tie the game up or win it with a TD when you wouldve given up by punting if you had the ball first. I'd rather get the ball second.
Thats if I am NE who has a pretty good offense and a pretty good defense. If I am Pittsburgh who has an elite offense and a very shaky defense, Im taking the ball every time.
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I agree. Even one of the best coaches of all time makes a questionable decision. The defense was playing better than the offense but I would still put the football in the hands of my best player number 12.
Sometimes even smart coaches over think instead of just playing football .
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It may be a wild dream but I have to throw it out there.

Chiefs are definitely in the playoffs at least as a wild card,
how cool would it be for 'fly-over' country to have both world champions from old KC?

Just a thought.
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It may be a wild dream but I have to throw it out there.

Chiefs are definitely in the playoffs at least as a wild card,
how cool would it be for 'fly-over' country to have both world champions from old KC?

Just a thought.
Won't be the first time that a wild card team wins the SB. In playoff football it's a one game elimination....Not sure but it might be the first time a team that started 1-5 wins the SB.
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It may be a wild dream but I have to throw it out there.

Chiefs are definitely in the playoffs at least as a wild card,
how cool would it be for 'fly-over' country to have both world champions from old KC?

Just a thought.

Its been a while, they are due. The Len Dawson era was a long time ago. Hard to believe their last playoff win was with Joe Montana as their QB.


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6 wild card teams have won the SB. The last time was Green Bay in 2010 with a 10-6 regular season record. 1980 Raiders and 2010 Packers started 3-3, no team started worse than that and won the SB as a wildcard.
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I did find this on funtrivia.com when googling the question of dual champions in same city



Here's by state:

2004 - New England Patriots & Boston Red Sox
2003 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Florida Marlins
1989 - San Francisco 49'ers & Oakland A's

The only other city wins for the Superbowl and World Series were Pittsburgh in 1979, and then the NY Jets and NY Mets in 1969.
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I did find this on funtrivia.com when googling the question of dual champions in same city



Here's by state:

2004 - New England Patriots & Boston Red Sox
2003 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Florida Marlins
1989 - San Francisco 49'ers & Oakland A's

The only other city wins for the Superbowl and World Series were Pittsburgh in 1979, and then the NY Jets and NY Mets in 1969.
NY has an unfair advantage due to having multiple teams in each sport so if we dont count them in the same City Champs, that leaves Pittsburgh and Boston as the only dual City Football/Baseball Champs. I know the Patriots dont play in Boston, but close enough. Lots of teams dont play in the actual big city they represent. Tampa Bay is nowhere near the Florida (Miami) Marlins so definitely not the same city. SF and Oakland are very close but they also both have their own teams in both sports so I dont think you can count them in same city champs either.

If you include basketball, there may be some more. I know the Mavericks won the NBA Championship the same year the Texas Rangers were 1 strike away from winning the WS, so they were close. Im sure there are others.
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I did find this on funtrivia.com when googling the question of dual champions in same city

Here's by state:

2004 - New England Patriots & Boston Red Sox
2003 - Tampa Bay Buccaneers & Florida Marlins
1989 - San Francisco 49'ers & Oakland A's
I'll give you 1989, because even though Oakland and San Francisco are not the same city, they are in the same metro area/media market (just as I'd include something like an LA team and baseball's Angels, from Anaheim even if they have "Los Angeles" in the name). So if we say "same metro area" instead of same city, I think 1989 qualifies. (The San Jose Sharks would also qualify if they ever win a Stanley Cup.)

But Tampa and Miami are not. I'm sure many Floridians celebrated both, but I'm sure that there is some degree of Tampa-Miami rivalry such as you might see with Boston/NY or SF/LA (though not to the same degree).
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Last season Buffalo had the #2 defense in the league and led the league in sacks with 54. Rex Ryan comes in and installs his own defense. They are now 20th in defense and 31st in sacks with 20.

A report has just come out that the Bills will cut DE Mario Williams when the season ends. He is their best pass rusher by far but hasnt transitioned well to Rex's new defense. Maybe because it SUCKS and Mario Williams doesnt know how to play in a horrible system? Rex should cut himself. What a moron.

Im not a Bills fan. Just a football fan who cant figure out why the Ryans keep getting jobs. I couldve taken that job and sipped coffee all day long and Im pretty sure the defense wouldve been better.
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utrecht my friend, I don't agree with you often but I do agree with you on this.... Rex Ryan is a horrible coach and has screwed up every team he has coached.
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Im not a Bills fan
I bet you will be on Sunday at 1:00 when they play the Jets assuming your Steelers beat the Browns.
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Didn't think it warranted a new thread but has anyone else been disappointed by this year's bowl games? Holy blowouts, Batman!
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Didn't think it warranted a new thread but has anyone else been disappointed by this year's bowl games? Holy blowouts, Batman!
The only one I saw was CSU vs Nevada and it was good.
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I bet you will be on Sunday at 1:00 when they play the Jets assuming your Steelers beat the Browns.
I will not take that bet.
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The only one I saw was CSU vs Nevada and it was good.
At the end of the CSU-NV game, the TV announcers said something like 'it is great to have a competitive game, most of the big games are going blowouts' or something to that effect. It caught my attention, and I clearly remember it. My question is if the announcers who are up on all the teams could expect a bunch of blowouts, couldn't the selection committee also? Or are the other criteria for bowl games of attendance, politics, etc more dominant than selecting teams that are evenly matched?
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