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Old 09-30-2009, 05:07 PM   #41
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In 1978, women midshipmen were still a novelty since they'd only been at service academies for two years. Male midshipmen all had their stories about sneaking hot chicks into Bancroft Hall, the world's largest dorm, through various back-door and underground passages. Such claims were heavily discounted, although thoroughly researched.

Plebes had to travel in uniform that year when heading home on Christmas leave, and we'd learned that in our service dress we got free beer treated better on the airplanes anyway. But you stood out in a crowd and people felt compelled to share all their war stories with you.

As we were leaving the aircraft, one of the flight attendants leaned over to me and murmered "I've spent the night in Bancroft Hall!"
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...In 1978, women midshipmen were still a novelty since they'd only been at service academies for two years.
You just dotted a really dated "i" for me. I graduated HS in 1976 and was being very actively recruited by the Coast Guard and AF for OCS. Now I know why!
I ended up winning a full scholarship to any NY state college, so I chose that path.
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Male midshipmen all had their stories about sneaking hot chicks into Bancroft Hall...
All, no doubt, in preparation for:

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When will this be officially changed to midshipchicks?
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You just dotted a really dated "i" for me. I graduated HS in 1976 and was being very actively recruited by the Coast Guard and AF for OCS. Now I know why! :laugh:
Lemme put it this way. The women of '80 are trailblazers who put up with a tremendous amount of unnecessary crap in pursuing equal opportunities. (Sound familiar?) Only today is USNA hitting the demographics (at least 20% women graduating) to call the process self-sustaining. However over 30 years later the '80 women still regularly get together for group therapy. And every once in a while I'll make a comment or my spouse (USNA '83) will read something that sets her off, leaving me in the middle of a minefield with no detection gear or exit maps...

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When will this be officially changed to midshipchicks?
Hey, it's a rank, not a gender! That heritage is the only thing keeping us squids from being confused with the zoomies and the woops...

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The photos, videos, and testimony are even worse. They had more than enough warnings and opportunities to amend their ways before they did it to themselves. It didn't help, however, when SECNAV John Lehman was getting right down there with the strippers at the 1980s Tailhooks.

My spouse said that when women were going into the academies (and later into combat billets) the more senior officers generally understood because they had college-age daughters. And their peers were mostly on board because they'd never known anything different. But a significant minority of the guys in between those two generations had to retire or die before things began to improve.

After Tailhook the nukes heaved a huge sigh of relief "there but for the grace of God". I hope they keep that in mind as women enter the submarine force today.

My daughter still doesn't understand why anyone would volunteer for submarine duty just to get a periscope tan around one eyeball. So I offered her more training, faster promotions, a higher caliber of shipmates, submarine pay, and $25K/year bonus pay. She's beginning to feel the pull of the Dark Side see the light...
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Reminds me of an interview I heard on the radio a few days ago with a female member of Congress from TN (can not recall the name). She calls herself Congressman XXXX not Congresswoman XXXX because she says that is the way that Constitution or other founding document named the position and that's the way she prefers it.
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Reminds me of an interview I heard on the radio a few days ago with a female member of Congress from TN (can not recall the name). She calls herself Congressman XXXX not Congresswoman XXXX because she says that is the way that Constitution or other founding document named the position and that's the way she prefers it.
I find Congresswoman exceedingly awkward so I use Representative instead.
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I find Congresswoman exceedingly awkward so I use Representative instead.
Hmmm. Better but I still prefer "that weasel."
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Hmmm. Better but I still prefer "that weasel."
Hey hey hey, a little respect here.

I think it's supposed to be "The Honorable Weasel Representative Schmuckatelli".
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Heh, and to think, all I have are stories of the dorm where I met my wife (we both lived there), what with the co-ed cattle showers, hotwired out of service elevator that was turned into mobile party room, and the infamous bike derby (complete with compost catapult on the roof of the dorm).

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W2R, are you shopping for a new avatar now, since your current one has that wistful, wanting-2-retire look?

I've found some great Eva Habermann shots for you to choose from. Let me know if you need help examining these closely. This one seems appropriate:

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Uh, T-Al, I think I'll stick with the pensive Eva pose I am presently using. But I'll keep those in mind.
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It might have been worse. Remember what King David did to Uriah the Hittite, husband of Bathseba, who had lain with David?
That must have been before my time.
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The lainee, the layee, and the laidee...of course.
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