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Old 08-01-2007, 11:02 AM   #41
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Its unfortunate when someone takes a disagreement and turns it into an ongoing personal vendetta.

Cant we all just get along?
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:17 AM   #42
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Rodney? Is that you?
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:23 AM   #43
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Where I am from we end many sentences with "Eh" and wouldn't be caught dead saying U Awl or y'all or however they say it.
"They"? Didn't you mean to say "...however y'all say it"? Eh?
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Old 08-01-2007, 11:40 AM   #44
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"You are only talking for yourself and whatever gang/cult you are so desperately trying to establish here."


Well it IS a good point. And I can't find my copy of the secret charter at the moment. Were we established as a gang or as a cult? I think there may be tax ramification.
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Were we established as a gang or as a cult? I think there may be tax ramification.
If some of us end up dead and others in prison, it's a gang.
If we all end up dead, it's a cult.

I'm filing as a cult member.
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"They"? Didn't you mean to say "...however y'all say it"? Eh?
Ee-ya, sure.
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Old 08-01-2007, 12:24 PM   #47
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Ahhl you weeahdo's from othah pahts of the nation ahh shoah hahd to underahstahnd.
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Old 08-01-2007, 02:20 PM   #48
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When I discovered this discussion site, I was delighted. Finally, I had found folks of a kindred spirit. Folks preoccupied with freeing themselves from the daily grind. But politics has spoiled the romance. Those once respected colleagues became friends or enemys, depending on which side of the fence they stood.

For a while, I felt like a leper. My strong abhorance of the course this country took after 9/11 separated me from the guys who insist on displaying their war medals as avatars. They don't repect my opinions and I don't respect theirs.

My preference would be that everyone continue to say anything they wanted to, but acknowledge, at the same time, that they might be full of shazzbt! A "your mileage might vary" disclaimer, as it were. When your opinion is self-acknowleged as just that, name calling would be, if not eliminated, less stinging.

You may not agree with me, should agree with my right to have and share my own opinion.
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Old 08-01-2007, 03:26 PM   #49
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"Those once respected colleagues became friends or enemys, depending on which side of the fence they stood."

That's pretty much the size of it.

Looks to me like, when you get down to it, spouting personal political views is a lot like spouting your personal religion. It's your view, sure. But shoved in everyone's face, it's really nothing more than another box to categorize people with. Sadly it just ends up separating people who could have been friends. That's how I see it working here.

Politics and religion, at our age, are really not all that subject to change.
People stay away from these topics in "face to face" encounters because we have learned from hard experience that they just cause unnecessary heartburn. Why everyone figures they can say, on the internet, what they wouldn't dream of saying in person is beyond me.

And unless you're Ghandi or Christ or Mohammed, you're not going to change anyone's mind anyway.

Of course this doesn't account for those of us who THINK they are the "second coming". I think these folks should go start their own forum.
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My preference would be that everyone continue to say anything they wanted to, but acknowledge, at the same time, that they might be full of shazzbt! A "your mileage might vary" disclaimer, as it were. When your opinion is self-acknowleged as just that, name calling would be, if not eliminated, less stinging.

You may not agree with me, should agree with my right to have and share my own opinion.
I like Elderdude's angle on the matter. When I read stuff, I can take it with a grain of salt. And if I read something that either doesn't interest me, or starts going off on a (IMHO) weird tangent, I just don't click on that thread again.....kinda like changing the channel......Ain't no biggie!

I haven't put anyone on "ignore" (yet anyway), but if I see a thread posted by someone I don't care to "listen" to, I just don't go there.

As far as discussing politics....or for that matter, making 'poo' of politics and/or politicians....it's part of the fabric of our daily lives. I think that's even more true for us ER folks (though I can only speak for myself). Whether it's SS, Medicare, Insurance, Health Care, Prices of Gas, Food, Energy, the Stock Markets, Immigration, Social Justice, or whatever, the one common thread that runs through them all is Politics.

For every person that visits the E-R forums, there are that many varying opinions. And just like a library has books on just about every subject imaginable, from just about any viewpoint imaginable.....I don't have to read them all, or agree with them all, or for that matter even venture into that section. However, I would never advocate a book burning, or even banning certain books, on the basis that I don't particularly agree (or vehemently disagree) with the subject matter.

Heck, I get a chuckle out of a lot of stuff around the forum, whether it was intended to be funny or not.....it's just that some folks (and subjects) crack me up, although I haven't spewed my juice on the monitor or keyboard yet. Last time I checked, I wasn't under any constitutional obligation to be politically correct OR politically neutral. With all of the issues that affect my life, I CAN'T be politically neutral, and politicians who don't act on behalf of my best interests open themselves up to lambasting.

So in a nutshell....lighten up.
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Old 08-01-2007, 04:12 PM   #51
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Politics and religion, at our age, are really not all that subject to change. People stay away from these topics in "face to face" encounters because we have learned from hard experience that they just cause unnecessary heartburn. Why everyone figures they can say, on the internet, what they wouldn't dream of saying in person is beyond me.
That may just be a perception. There is a fairly large group of us retirees, that get together just about every morning at a local coffee joint...the actual number varies, but over a period of about 2 hours, there are (on average) about 30 folks who grace each other presence there. Not everyone shows up everyday, and not everyone stays the entire 2 hours. But we have all, voluntarily, pretty much entwined ourselves into each other's lives, and we all watch out for each other and care about each other. And ANYBODY is welcome to join in with us. The primary reason for the daily gathering, is for social interaction....a.k.a. we all like to shoot the sh*t!!!

We are of varied political, ethnic, religious, and financial backgrounds, as well as ages. I'm the youngest at 50, the oldest is a spry old fella in his 90's, that I've known all of my life. Funny thing is...we all get a long! Topics of discussion? ANYTHING! There are NO 'sacred cows' in our pasture! We're all adults, and we all can go "face to face" and share our views and opinions, and the others all show respect by listening to one another. Do we agree with everything said? Heck, no! Will what is said change our beliefs or viewpoints? Probably not. But we all enjoy each others company and camaraderie.

We all have one single common bond between us....we're all retired!!! We're livin' life....we're havin' fun!
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I do like the idea of a Politics Thread. Then all politics could be put there and the guys/gals who don't like such discussions could easily avoid them. Such discussions don't bother me, but I can understand those who might hate them. But, doing it will require someone to make decisions. Take a subject like social security. How can you discuss that and eliminate all political input. Same with taxes. Healthcare, anyone? Travel? Is it better in Canada than France? Hmmmm. This could be tough. Before you know it everything will be in the political thread.
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When does a discussion cross the line from exchange of ideas and information to politics? IMHO when the author begins to denigrate the ideas of the others, or personal attacks on other posters they have crossed the line of a discussion of political ideas to politicking. If the discussion grinds down to the Republican plan is better than the Democratic plan because……. And you would have to be an idiot to not see it……, when the only contribution to the conversation is to say the President is an idiot, Hillary is nothing more than a socialist shill….. Fred Thompson’s trophy wife…. Obama does not have enough gravitas….(oh that was Bush), Mitt Romney is a Mormon, and so on. (I tried to give equal time).

A discussion on Healthcare does not have to get political. Pointing out the plans of both parties, good and bad, is not, IMO, the type of political I had in mind. Calling someone a troll, idiot, stupid, right wing wacko, liberal socialist is. Difference personal attacks.

Someone starts a thread on SS, after three or four post someone finds it necessary to tell us how the Democrats sold us down the river, or the Republicans have trampled on the constitution and we are all being monitored. For me, that is when I would throw the No-Politics flag.
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