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Old 04-30-2012, 02:01 AM   #81
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It's still common in better Seattle neighborhoods, as is smiling at others on some streets, letting people in to merge on the freeway -even with our influx of yahoos over the past 40 years. Seattle seems to affect them more than they infect us.
Here, people wave when driving through residential areas. If I am ever feeling glum, driving through my neighborhood is a big help. Everyone waves and smiles, whether in other cars or standing in their yards. I wave and smile back.
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Here, people wave when driving through residential areas. If I am ever feeling glum, driving through my neighborhood is a big help. Everyone waves and smiles, whether in other cars or standing in their yards. I wave and smile back.
Good to her this. That is quite a bit better than here, and I agree, it does have a big mood pick-up effect. I've also always experienced Texas this way, even in the big Dallas and Ft. Worth suburbs.

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I go to Menards quite often and in the morning it really irks me that they have 18 registers with one of them open ten employees standing behind the customer service desk chatting, while there are 10 people in the single line. I have gone to the service desk on more than one occasion and asked if they were not to busy could they open another line. they were not to happy with my request, but eventually they opened more registers. sometimes you have to speak up. I owned a retail business and if I saw that in my store, someone would have gotten chewed out.
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Of course I've seen people abuse the grocery express checkout lines but I have to say that, over the course of my life, it happens remarkably few times. On the flip side, I've had people ask me if I wanted to go ahead of them when they see I only have two items. Decades ago I might have spoken up but back then I was a man in a hurry. These days I don't speak up because I am just more relaxed.

I hold doors open for people and they usually thank me.

I always ignore the phone if I am talking to someone in person. When I was working I would give my boss a pass on this etiquette item since I knew how busy she was. She usually warned me if she was watching the phone.

My mother-in-law has a handicap placard. She has mild congestive heart failure and can't walk long distances. If you saw her walk away from her car you might not immediately think she is handicapped. On the other hand, once you get one, you get to keep it a long time even if you don't need it.

Contrary to the venting in this thread I seem to live in a fairly civil society here in the San Francisco Bay area. At least in the places I frequent. I would say that the only exception is bad drivers. Something I see where ever I go.
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Well an entertaining thread I suppose, nothing wrong with that. Only about 1 in 10 replies took on the basic question I was asking, but that must mean I didn't frame the question well enough (or that we can't be framed here...).
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Well an entertaining thread I suppose, nothing wrong with that. Only about 1 in 10 replies took on the basic question I was asking, but that must mean I didn't frame the question well enough (or that we can't be framed here...).

We are kind of like politicians....

It wasn't to long ago when a reporter asked a politician to answer the question he asked... the politicians response was something like 'I will answer questions I want to answer'... the pol had his talking points and was just going to say them no matter what question was asked...
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Well an entertaining thread I suppose, nothing wrong with that. Only about 1 in 10 replies took on the basic question I was asking, but that must mean I didn't frame the question well enough (or that we can't be framed here...).
No, it's because we don't really read the question, or are eager to discuss what we are thinking about. This is a shocking trend, and we're all a bunch of threadholes here.

I, for one, am speaking up about it.
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I, for one, am speaking up about it.
You better be glad I'm not armed...
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No, it's because we don't really read the question, or are eager to discuss what we are thinking about. This is a shocking trend, and we're all a bunch of threadholes here.

I, for one, am speaking up about it.
(Nasty glare at T-Al) Mind your own business, buddy!
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No, it's because we don't really read the question, or are eager to discuss what we are thinking about. This is a shocking trend, and we're all a bunch of threadholes here.
You should trademark that.

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Technically, you're typing, not speaking, up about it. Still, thanks for taking a stand.
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No, it's because we don't really read the question, or are eager to discuss what we are thinking about. This is a shocking trend, and we're all a bunch of threadholes here.

I, for one, am speaking up about it.
I'm often guilty as charged!

Maybe we should consider a 'Vent' thread where you can just let it rip on whatever is on your mind.

Then, afterwards and feeling better, one could answer questions in a more rational frame of mind.
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Maybe we should consider a 'Vent' thread where you can just let it rip on whatever is on your mind.
Having a non-vent, non-hijack thread might be more unusual. Though I've been guilty on both counts.
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As far as the OP? If something bothers you and you don't speak up, imho you don't really have a problem with it. I don't think I would have spoken up. Are we going to hell in a handbasket because people are selfish? Who knows.
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What do you expect in a society where everyone is a victim and everyone gets a trophy?

In our county there is a petition circulating to change the HS grading system to be pass/fail only. The petition cited examples of emotional damage inflicted on teens receiving a B vs. someone else getting an A... "kids need to know that doing their best is what's most important, not beating out the rest in their class."

the sad part is... last I saw this had over 2,000 signatures

(my guess is that it'll never pass... but if it does, I'm prepared to move before my daughters reach HS)
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(my guess is that it'll never pass... but if it does, I'm prepared to move before my daughters reach HS)

There are many colleges that have Pass/Fail for freshman year (EG: Brown, MIT, CIT, Swathmore, Johns Hopkins...)
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There are many colleges that have Pass/Fail for freshman year (EG: Brown, MIT, CIT, Swathmore, Johns Hopkins...)
Yes, but they have other reasons for doing so. Freshmen year is weed out time, where you separate those who think they want to be ________, versus those who just thought they wanted to be one.

The point I believe the parents in my community were trying to make is that ranking students isn't necessary (emotional damaging - sorry I can't say that with a straight face) and that HS kids shouldn't be ranked for college but rather have a choice to go wherever they want.

My belief is that it's just an attitude here that parents think their kids and our school systems are better than everyone else.
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The point I believe the parents in my community were trying to make is that ranking students isn't necessary (emotional damaging - sorry I can't say that with a straight face) and that HS kids shouldn't be ranked for college but rather have a choice to go wherever they want.

My belief is that it's just an attitude here that parents think their kids and our school systems are better than everyone else.
I wonder how they plan to convince colleges to accept their pass/fail HS transcripts when the kids apply. Shouldn't harm their job career prospects at WalMart or McDonalds though...

And those kids who've avoided the emotional damage of HS grading should do well in the real world.
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There are many colleges that have Pass/Fail for freshman year (EG: Brown, MIT, CIT, Swathmore, Johns Hopkins...)
Mere diploma mills.
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Contrary to the venting in this thread I seem to live in a fairly civil society here in the San Francisco Bay area. At least in the places I frequent. I would say that the only exception is bad drivers. Something I see where ever I go.
I was driving down a street in SF, when a woman in the right hand lane on a two lane street gave me the evil eye.

At the next intersection I realized it was a two way, two lane street, luckily I had just smiled back.

Yea, it was the 60's and close to the Haight, and a ponytail to boot.
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