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Old 03-26-2008, 08:24 PM   #41
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Agreed. Just ask Rev Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barak Obama, etc - all cut from the same mold it now seems.
yes, they happen to try and give a voice to the concerns of the black community - the horror. Al and Jesse have used some lame tactics, are opportunists - but in the end are just trying to do what they think is the right thing - and most of the time they're right.

sure you might disagree with them - but go walk a mile in their shoes and tell me how you feel.

also - your putting barack with Al is exactly what Hannity wanted white folks and main stream america to do - lump him with the "old racial politics" - when in fact barack embraces a new racial politics...can someone go push that clock back 10 more years...two steps forward twenty five back...
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Old 03-26-2008, 08:48 PM   #42
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I have learned that stereotypes DO exist for a reason. (and I can be the "typical" blonde at times!) Do they include ALL?? I'll admit it - even MY grandmother is a typical white person of her age (91)/generation...while not a verbal grump, I have always noticed there are some things/situations she is not pleased with and one might notice a very slight recoil regarding some racial issues, social issues, and class issues. It's ok in my book - I love her dearly - despite the fact that she grew up in a different "age" than I did. She still loves me despite the fact that I did not do the things she thought I should have. Such is life.
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Old 03-26-2008, 10:13 PM   #43
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in fact barack embraces a new racial politics...
Well, up till lately I had thought Barak was unique in that he was a black politicion who wasn't doing the "racial politics" thing (new or old) & I had a certain respect for that.

Now I (and many others) know differently - and that's whats going to hurt him in the nomination process & the general election (if he gets the nom)

The way I see it - If Hillary gets the nomination, most of Obama's supporters are gonna vote for her or not vote at all - they won't be voting for McCain. If Obama get's the nomination there will be quite a few of former Clinton supporters who will vote McCain. This is a scenario the power brokers in the Dem Party are going to have to consider.
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I suppose some folks would say it's my latent racism - but Obama's gonna fix that for us all some say.
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There were many more people that were against the discrimination of that era. Some risked their safety; others supported through the legal system, government and voting. As with today's crime issue - there are a few who used violence and got much of the attention.
Obama said his grandmother was typical, referring to her as "a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." I would say that was a lot more 'typical' of that generation than those who fought for civil rights.

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RE: "Nor were they white"
In your statement you said generation not race; if you correct your statement to race than you are saying the same as the senator.
Perhaps 'typical white person of that generation' would be correct.

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The definition of the word typical is below (there are many things it does not mean)

All that I am saying is that in this situation; please don't disrespect the previous generation when presenting your point of view.
I think he used the word typical incorrectly. But I think the gist of his statement is plain. I don't think it is disrespectful to point out racist thinking where it exists.
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Obama said his grandmother was typical, referring to her as "a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe." I would say that was a lot more 'typical' of that generation than those who fought for civil rights.


Perhaps 'typical white person of that generation' would be correct.


I think he used the word typical incorrectly. But I think the gist of his statement is plain. I don't think it is disrespectful to point out racist thinking where it exists.
... I think you missed the point...
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Come on... Drink the Koolaide.

Don't worry... It will be painless. First your arms will grow numb, then...


Seriously... I have some concerns about Obama. But I think the issue has been over played.

There are some inner city blacks that are angry and disenfranchised. They are going to blame someone.

If Obama tries to make any radical changes as president... he will ensure that it will be many many years before another black person will get the nomination for president.

In a way, he has to live up to a higher standard than a white politician because any move that appears to wreak of favoritism will be met with strong opposition.

I am less concerned about him being overtly biased racially and more concerned about him being able to get anything done.



A vote for whoever (you pick them... including McCain) is against the status quo traditional republican this year.
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... I think you missed the point...
I await your enlightenment...
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I don't understand why someone who supports hillary would support Mccain instead of Barack.

Hillary and Barack agree on most major policy issues - Mccain is similar to Bush in too many ways.
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