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Old 03-22-2008, 12:24 PM   #21
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You know, like Cheney is the behind-the-scene guy for Bush.
I thought it was the other way around?


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Just a guess, but I'd bet he was never *on* your list....

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:21 PM   #22
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These people that Obama associates with will be his "behind-the-scenes" advisors if he becomes president.

You know, like Cheney is the behind-the-scene guy for Bush.

Good luck, but Obama is off my list.
If Wright is Obama's VP choice, I'll pass on him too.
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I'm a typical white person. Should I be offended? Please tell me, pundits of ER.org. ??
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I'm a typical white person. Should I be offended? Please tell me, pundits of ER.org. ??
Student, by your asking the question it is obvious you have not reached the void on a permanent basis. When you do you will know when to offend and when to feel offended. Until then leave it to others; it is more advanced than you know. Also, you should not attempt humor, sarcasim heavy lifting, or a souflet.
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Student, by your asking the question it is obvious you have not reached the void on a permanent basis. When you do you will know when to offend and when to feel offended. Until then leave it to others; it is more advanced than you know. Also, you should not attempt humor, sarcasim heavy lifting, or a souflet.
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Thank you, grasshopper. I will keep that in mind.

You, however, should not attempt spelling.
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These people that Obama associates with will be his "behind-the-scenes" advisors if he becomes president.

You know, like Cheney is the behind-the-scene guy for Bush.

Good luck, but Obama is off my list.
I'd wonder more about who would be his "Karl Rove" than his "Cheney"
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typical white person?

OK mr Obama?

Idiot? I think you are.
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With all the recent threads and posts on Mr. Obama here is something to calm us down

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From my POV, this is a matter of someone looking hard enough and long enough at the speech and interview to find something he insists we should all be offended by.

If you go through life looking for ways to be offended, you will always find them.
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If you go through life looking for ways to be offended, you will always find them.
Agreed. Just ask Rev Wright, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Barak Obama, etc - all cut from the same mold it now seems.
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With all the recent threads and posts on Mr. Obama here is something to calm us down

ABC News

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Very insightful political analysis there from a "typical Obama voter", er fan?, follower?

Her views are obviously very well thought out. It shows that she's really spent a lot of time studying the issues from various perspectives & she's definitely shown me the light as to why Obama is the man to cure all the country's (& probably the entire world's) ills.

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I think he should have added that she was 'typical for her generation'....in which case i think he would have been absolutely correct. Or perhaps he should have used the word 'average' or said "like a lot of".....

Either way, 99% of those who are pretending offense would never have voted for him any way. But it's a great sound bite for talking heads.
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I think he should have added that she was 'typical for her generation'....in which case i think he would have been absolutely correct. Or perhaps he should have used the word 'average' or said "like a lot of".....

Either way, 99% of those who are pretending offense would never have voted for him any way. But it's a great sound bite for talking heads.
What the senator ascribed to his grandmother is not typical for a white person nor is it typical for her generation. There were people of her generation who worked risked their lives and safety to work with minorities for civil rights.

Don't forget that Martin Luther King, Ceasar Chavez and others of every color were members of her generation.

Please don't paint everyone with such generalizations; they taint the good reputation of many people.
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What the senator ascribed to his grandmother is not typical for a white person nor is it typical for her generation. There were people of her generation who worked risked their lives and safety to work with minorities for civil rights.
And who was threatening their lives and safety? I think those you describe were not typical, they were extraordinary.

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Don't forget that Martin Luther King, Ceasar Chavez and others of every color were members of her generation.
Nor were they white.

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Please don't paint everyone with such generalizations; they taint the good reputation of many people.
Who said I was painting everyone? There is a difference between 'typical' and 'every last one.'
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And who was threatening their lives and safety? I think those you describe were not typical, they were extraordinary.


Nor were they white.


Who said I was painting everyone? There is a difference between 'typical' and 'every last one.'
You statement was "I think he should have added that she was 'typical for her generation'....in which case i think he would have been absolutely correct."

There were many more people that were against the discrimination of that era. Some risked their safety; others supported through the legal system, government and voting. As with today's crime issue - there are a few who used violence and got much of the attention.

RE: "Nor were they white"
In your statement you said generation not race; if you correct your statement to race than you are saying the same as the senator.
The definition of the word typical is below (there are many things it does not mean)

All that I am saying is that in this situation; please don't disrespect the previous generation when presenting your point of view.

typ·i·cal /ˈtɪpɪkəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[tip-i-kuhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective 1.of the nature of or serving as a type or representative specimen. 2.conforming to a particular type. 3.Biology. exemplifying most nearly the essential characteristics of a higher group in natural history, and forming the type: the typical genus of a family. 4.characteristic or distinctive: He has the mannerisms typical of his class. 5.pertaining to, of the nature of, or serving as a type or emblem; symbolic.
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And who was threatening their lives and safety? I think those you describe were not typical, they were extraordinary.


Nor were they white.


Who said I was painting everyone? There is a difference between 'typical' and 'every last one.'
I'm glad you set the record straight; it was getting a bit odd to think that Andrew Goodman and Mitchell Schwerner were typical of their generation and not the extraordinary people they were. And it was kinda wrong factually to say many people were typically like Goodman or Schwerner when they were typically like Obama's Grandmother; since when did being a person typical of the prejudice of the times become a really bad thing -- only when we look at it with the hindsight of better sensitivity? It's interesting -- Obama shows compassion for people, like his Grandmother, who were trapped by the prejudice of their times -- and he gets slammed here for maligning the extraordinary people who weren't trapped by the prejudice of their times. Go figure that one!
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You mean the people who do not agree with you "doth protest too much"
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