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Old 01-17-2007, 02:13 PM   #21
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The thing that is remarkable about this election is that it will be the first time in a
VERY long time that neither party's candidate will be a sitting President or Vice
President. Maybe 1952 ?
According to my earlier link, it's the first time since 1928 "that neither the sitting president nor the sitting vice president will enter a state caucus or primary and run for president." This assumes Cheney serves his full term and means what he's said. If his heart gives out between now and then, who knows?
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Re: Obama to form panel to explore presidential bid
Old 01-17-2007, 02:50 PM   #22
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I saw Edwards on Jay Leno and was very unimpressed. Reminded me of a high-school student running for president of the student body.
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Old 01-17-2007, 02:54 PM   #23
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Hmmm, Obama has held elected office for ten years, and the inexperience factor didn't prevent JFK from winning. Still, I have a hard time coming up with a state Obama or Hillary could win that Kerry didn't (what, Tenessee is going to switch to blue?). McCain is the man to beat on the Repub side, but I think once he gets through New Hampshire he'll get slaughtered in the southern states by Vilsack. Romney really doesn't have a chance, his polling is decent right now, but he has too much on the record supporting gay rights etc. to ever get through Dixie (although Reagan was a divorced actor and yet assumed the mantle of Christian Savior). Look to Vilsack proxies to run "swift boat veterans against holy underwear" ads to sink this campaign. McCain's best hope is Romney and Vilsack to split the ultra-right vote. Hillary will immolate Dean-style. I'll go out on a limb and say the Demo ticket will be Biden/Obama.
Obama has only been a US senator for TWO YEARS............I don't count state reps as Presidential fodder..........
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Old 01-17-2007, 04:33 PM   #24
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Well, most seem to think and outsider status is a good thing, and Senators pretty much have no shot once they have too many votes "on record". He was President of Harvard Law <student body?>, so obviously not an idiot. Frankly, I have an open mind to him.

Oh, and technically, he'll have been a Senator for 4 years come 2008/9...

Still, many Americans "know a neighbor" who wouldn't vote for a black man, so people may shy away in the voting booth, and Hillary has what, 40% "strong negatives" with the voters, so that may sink her. Biden really could swoop in and nab the nomination, and frankly I find him acceptable, too. In fact, if we had McCain vs. Biden in '08, I'd feel pretty hopeful for the country!
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How many on this thread can say they have accurately predicted any major party's nominee or the president-elect two years before inauguration? More than one would predict by random chance?

I'm a young'un, but it seems to me that there have been several times in history where the eventual front-runner was somewhere in the "rest of 'em" pack for quite a while. I believe Jimmy Carter is a good example of this. Also Bob Dole I don't think was the front-runner for a long time. Al Gore, too, I think. Anyhow, I'm not a big politics person and watch more for amusement value and not looking stupid to my peers on current events.

I did come up with one predictive theory though: The nicer/more personable of the two major party candidates wins the presidency. IMHO, that rule has worked for every election for the past 30 years. Before that I don't know the candidates personalities very well.

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Old 01-17-2007, 04:51 PM   #26
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Good point.

As a former resident of MA, when I woke up to hear that Kerry had won the first presidential primaries, all I could do was mutter "What the f--k...that cant be right...what the hell happened to that Dean guy?".

Never thought much of that Clinton fellow either, earlier in the elections. Sounded like a slick willie with too many skeletons in his closet.
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Old 01-17-2007, 05:39 PM   #27
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OK....I have to break up some of this seriousness here. (actually politics kind of bore me most of the time, although I have found the posts here to be really quite interesting! 8) )


Anyway with that said, here's my choice IF it were possible....which it ISN'T since my VP choice wasn't born in the US:

Danny Devito with Arnold as his VP.

That would HAVE to be better than what we've had for years!!!



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I'll go out on a limb and say the Demo ticket will be Biden/Obama.
I hope that Biden does win. Then we can save some money on speechwriters.
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Old 01-17-2007, 08:01 PM   #29
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I imagine that Hillary will pull something out of her war chest to halt the advance of Obama's Presidential aspirations. Although I do not think that Hilary can win the presidency, I do think she is savy enough to secure the Democratic nod.
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I imagine that Hillary will pull something out of her war chest to halt the advance of Obama's Presidential aspirations. Although I do not think that Hilary can win the presidency, I do think she is savy enough to secure the Democratic nod.
Maybe she'll send Bill over to give him some tips. Next thing you know, the ol' charmer will be sharing drinks with Obama and taking him to meet his friends. Before you know it, there are pictures of the Illinois Junior Senator in a compromising position with two Georgetown coeds and a transvestite hooker named "Charlese." That ought to damage him sufficiently.
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Old 01-18-2007, 03:03 PM   #31
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Re: Obama to form panel to explore presidential bid

By the way-- did you know that Obama is a heavy smoker. I have never seen him smoking but I guess he won't smoke in public.
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Old 01-18-2007, 03:08 PM   #32
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By the way-- did you know that Obama is a heavy smoker. I have never seen him smoking but I guess he won't smoke in public.
So if Obama does win the presidency can he smoke in the White House, a government building?
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I'll go out on a limb and say the Demo ticket will be Biden/Obama.
No way! Who would put Obama as the VP candidate - he's more interesting and a better speaker than Biden and would make Biden look bad...

Biden makes the rounds on Sunday political shows, but also seems a bit cynical- but i guess hard to avoid if you've been around these past few years Let's see what solutions he has to propose, how happy he can make his face and if he can carry a room in a speech!
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Considering the consequences of Rumsfeld's protégé stepping up to the plate, let's all say a couple more years of "heartfelt" nightly prayers for George W. Bush's continued health & well-being, OK?

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Obambi Smokes? He is in his 40's. He knows better!
He probably buys Lottery tickets too.
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Obambi Smokes? He is in his 40's. He knows better!
He probably buys Lottery tickets too.
Sounds like the "average Joe"...............because "average Obama" doesn't have the same ring............

SNL would have a field day if he got to be President..........
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Jarhead, is it raining there. It's snowing here! It'll be a cold day in Texas before we elect a lib..... er ah, erase that. ABABOAC.
Eagle: (By the way, are you a "Bald Eagle".) ?

Apparantly you are catching it pretty good last few days. It's been a strange winter so far in my neck of the woods. Although I live in Calif.
we live in the Sierras at some elevation, and a little snow is part of the program. We've had none so far, but it's been cold enough to freeze the greens on the course, that I play locally, and that has been putting
us pretty much out of business until early afternoon.

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