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Old 01-04-2011, 02:27 PM   #41
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Thanks for the bunny update. I agree that you have a great vet. I hope he does well with the meds.
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I'm impressed with the $45 figure. I seem to blow through that much by the time I greet the receptionist. My pup's worth it, though.
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Spent close to $3K in vet bills on guinea pigs, mostly towards their end of life issues. It is hard to pull the plug when they are basically family members and you have the money. Each time I swore I would just have them put down quietly and each time the kids and hubby talked me into having the vet do whatever money making ideas he could think of to prolong their lives a few more days or weeks, which simply delayed the inevitable anyway.

So sorry to hear your bunny is under the weather, Nords.

For heart issues, veggies especially rich in magnesium might be helpful. A few scary heart issues for me my doctors said were untreatable were easily corrected with more magnesium in my diet. Nuts were especially helpful, though I don't know if that is something bunnies can eat.
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We spent $45 at the vet but we learned a lot and got some reassurance.
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So not much has changed (aside from the exam trauma), he can take the diuretics indefinitely (especially the fruit-flavored variety), and we think he's worth spending an extra couple hundred bucks a year. When arthritis gets to the point of causing pain/mobility symptoms then we could step up to the joint meds and painkillers, but at that point it might be time to consider his quality of life. This could go downhill in a few months, or he could cope with advancing age for as long as 4-5 more years.
Nords, I am so happy to read this! It sounds like you'll have your little buddy to run around the living room with, for several more years. Hopefully his arthritis pain can be held at bay through medications.
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Great news (given his age) and a great vet!
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I've decided to come back in my next life as either Nords's kid or Nords's pet rabbit. What a great life there in aloha-land.
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Several years ago an old sick chihuahua adopted me. The poor little guy had congestive heart failure which my vet treated with diuretics. Every now and then I'd have to made a mad rush to the vet because the little guy was having trouble breathing.

After one mad dash I decided to quickly run into the store and leave the little guy in the car. That was long before I started crating my dogs. I was gone less than three minutes. Well, nature called and the driver's seat was the most convenient place. Note to self: always carry towels in the car!!!

Nords, I'm glad you didn't get any catastrophic news about the little guy. Little Peter picked out some very nice people to adopt.
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I'm glad your bunny is OK. To treat our dog's arthritis our vet recommended we grind up a Chondroitin/Glucosamine tablet and sprinkle it in her food. This worked for a few years and then we progressed to Rimadyl tablets.

IMHO our pets are here to help teach us how to love one another as unconditionally as they love us.
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I'm glad your bunny is OK. To treat our dog's arthritis our vet recommended we grind up a Chondroitin/Glucosamine tablet and sprinkle it in her food. This worked for a few years and then we progressed to Rimadyl tablets.
Thanks, I'll add that to our questions list.

He's pretty funny with these evening raisins-- he's always practically done the moonwalk for one but now he must think he's getting the "Best Bunny" prize or something. He's already scampering over to me as soon as he sees me holding it in my hand, and after he snarfs it down we get the full-body headshake of joy. I don't think he even notices that they're chewy on the outside and crunchy on the inside... and by the way he's moving it's awful hard to tell that his infrastructure is getting creaky.
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I hope Peter will get well soon. He sounds like an adorable bunny. Best of luck, Nords.
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It's great to hear about Peter's progress, he definitely lucked into a great home.

The raisins reminded me: For dog owners, don't feed your pooch raisins or grapes. Even a few can lead to renal failure. There's not much clarity on what causes the problem, and not all dogs are affected at all times, but when it happens it is serious.
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Five days is probably too early to make a definite conclusion, but we're cautiously optimistic. Before we went to the vet, Peter bunny was coughing just about every morning. Since we've started the diuretic there hasn't been a single cough, and this morning he played our chasing game four different times. He must be feeling pretty perky.

No complaints about the raisins. I don't think he even notices that they're chewy on the outside yet crunchy on the inside, and his litterbox habits haven't really changed.

I'll give the vet a call next week for a prescription. We were charged about 50 cents/dose where PetMeds.com appears to be selling the same pill at about a dime a dose. Hmmm. I think we'll have a talk about that too.
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We've finally reached our daughter (she just finished a rough week of college exams) so now I can post about our pet bunny.

I'm sorry to say that Peter Bunny died suddenly on Thursday night. His heart gave out and it was all over very quickly. I don't think he even felt it.

He must have been having a tough day because he spent most of it with me at the computer desk. A little after sunrise he had a huge cardiac-congestion cough, his first in several weeks. Around 9 AM he stopped his usual bunny business to tickle my feet with his whiskers and pester me for petting. After petting him six or seven different ways spread out over 20 minutes I finally picked him up and sat him in my lap. He's not a lap bunny so he was pretty surprised but he sort of settled in and enjoyed more petting. After another 20 minutes he started to get restless so I lowered him back to the ground. He hopped over to the lanai door and crouched down on the rug to watch the birds.

These bad days were starting to happen more often and he's been losing weight, so I called the vet for a checkup appointment when we could talk about deciding how to consider euthanasia. The vet suggested more diuretic so I gave him a dose around noon. After licking the plate clean he went behind the couch to his cardboard-box burrow and took a nap.

The diuretic must have helped him rest, but it wasn't a cure. When he got up he sat in his usual spot by the recliner watching me at the computer desk. He'd come over for petting every once in a while or I'd pet him while I was walking around. I realized that I hadn't seen him eat or drink since early morning. I eventually persuaded him to have a bit of banana. Around 6 PM he crawled under the recliner. Just a few minutes later I heard him make a huge back-foot thump and give a small cough. I looked under the recliner and he wasn't moving. I lifted the recliner up and he was laying on his side. I petted him and realized that he wasn't breathing and had no heartbeat. It happened so quickly.

I think his heart was very weak. The heart attack must've taken his life before he even realized what was happening, let alone felt any prolonged pain or suffering. Maybe he over-exerted himself wriggling around under the recliner. Or maybe he thought his time had come and he was looking for the right place.

Our whole family knew his body was failing and we've all taken the time to say our goodbyes. This shouldn't have surprised us "grownups" but I've never been around a pet's death before and it hit me a lot harder than I expected. It took a few hours to track down spouse at her hotel in Saipan. Then we had to decide when to break the news to our daughter around her exam schedule. I just finished a phone call that no parent wants to make. Our daughter's sharing in her own way (on Facebook, of course) and her friends are gathering.

I buried Peter's body yesterday in a spot my daughter had picked out while she was home last Christmas. I was able to pick up his food & water dishes and take care of his litter box. But the whole house is still filled with all the reminders & habits we've shared over the last nine years, let alone the bunny equipment, and it all keeps sneaking up on me. Spouse will be back home Sunday night, but I think we'll wait to take care of Peter's things until our daughter's home for summer break next month.

I haven't been very functional for the last couple days, and after this post I'm going to take a week or two to get caught up on all the things that have piled up in the last month. I can tackle the blog and the book and taking care of my Dad's affairs, but not much more until I get caught up on those.

I appreciate all the e-mails & PMs you've sent over the past few months, and thanks for everyone's support. This has been a particularly nasty month but I'm pretty sure that the days will begin to suck a little less. I'll get a handle on it, and I'll be back later.
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I am so sorry, Nords. Peter Bunny had a wonderful life with you and I know you must miss him.
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Very sorry to hear this news. You guys gave Peter a great home. We know a family with a bunny, and the little guy was litter trained and sociable, but they kept him in his crate 24/7, which was sad. Unfortunately, I think this is the norm. Your bunny had a really good life.
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So sorry to hear about your bunny !
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So sad. Their lives are so short. They do become part of us. Peace.
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Nords, you have my deepest condolences on the loss of Peter. I'm relieved you didn't have to make the decision no animal lover wants to make and he died at home with minimal discomfort.

As you know, I'm particularly fond of cats. This is what inspired me to volunteer at the animal shelter. A good friend of mine at the shelter is a bunny lover and she has taught me to understand and appreciate them.

Rabbits are often misunderstood, mistreated, adopted on a whim, and then turned into the shelter when their owners are no longer interested in them. I know you put up with Peter's chewing and other things, but you never once expressed a desire to dump him at the shelter.

Thank you for being such a wonderful and responsible companion to Peter all these years. The world could use more people like you, Mrs. Nords and your daughter.
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