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Old 08-14-2016, 01:20 PM   #121
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It was also stated that she is giving up millions in endorsements as Harvard does not allow any endorsements at all for their students. I have nothing against the "college experience", but to give up a chance to be set for life financially just to go to college is not something that I would ever consider.

At the very least, she could have picked a college where they don't have such rules.
She will attend Stanford with a full athletic scholarship. The "no endorsements" rule is probably imposed by the NCAA, which wants to ensure that any money generated by a member athlete is distributed between the two athletic organizations and no one else. Allowing her to earn would be a bad precedent for them.

I think this choice shows she has condifence in herself and her ability to generate future income. If, 20 years from now, Michael Phelps is now broke and marginally employed, while Ledecky has used her education to propel her to a successful professional career, we will collectively congratulate her for making the hard choice.
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The irony of Farrah (the men's 10K) tripping and falling was he got bumped by his running/training partner .
After he got up and continuing running his running partner dropped back to see how he was doing and you could see them talking to one another. I would have loved to hear that conversation.

Fortunately Mo still went on to win.
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After he got up and continuing running his running partner dropped back to see how he was doing and you could see them talking to one another. I would have loved to hear that conversation.

Fortunately Mo still went on to win.
Makes me wonder why accidental bumping doesn't happen more often as they were so bunched together.
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Makes me wonder why accidental bumping doesn't happen more often as they were so bunched together.
It does happen a lot. The commentators listed a whole load of runners who had fallen and gone onto win their race.

One of the highest profile falls ever was Mary Decker in the 1984 Olympics 3k race where neither the tripper or trippee won a medal.
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It does happen a lot. The commentators listed a whole load of runners who had fallen and gone onto win their race.

One of the highest profile falls ever was Mary Decker in the 1984 Olympics 3k race where neither the tripper or trippee won a medal.
Didn't Mary Decker have a huge lead at the time of the fall?
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Didn't Mary Decker have a huge lead at the time of the fall?
No, she collided with another medal contender, Zola Budd.

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No, she collided with another medal contender, Zola Budd.


Thanks for the refresher. I remember now.
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She will attend Stanford with a full athletic scholarship. The "no endorsements" rule is probably imposed by the NCAA, which wants to ensure that any money generated by a member athlete is distributed between the two athletic organizations and no one else. Allowing her to earn would be a bad precedent for them.

I think this choice shows she has condifence in herself and her ability to generate future income. If, 20 years from now, Michael Phelps is now broke and marginally employed, while Ledecky has used her education to propel her to a successful professional career, we will collectively congratulate her for making the hard choice.
Phelps has a reported net worth of $55 million...unless he does something foolish, he'll be fine.

Scholarships make sense to the average person who can't afford school, but for a person with the ability to generate millions in endorsements, she is for all intents and purposes, paying a very heavy price for that scholarship. There are very few degrees that will earn over a career what she may be giving up.
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I would think that she can still go to college and accept commercial endorsements so long as she doesn't swim for the college team.
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I would think that she can still go to college and accept commercial endorsements so long as she doesn't swim for the college team.
Of course she can. She could also choose to continue competing and earn endorsements, just not in college. Her choice does not preclude future million dollar endorsement income - in fact, it might increase her future earning potential. For her there are clearly other priorities, in addition to money, in her life.
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I would think that she can still go to college and accept commercial endorsements so long as she doesn't swim for the college team.
I'm pretty certain she can. But doing the endorsements would be a time suck along with continuing to swim professionally, and it would probably be tough to also manage school. Missy Franklin said when she left college, she would not have been able to keep up with school while doing the photo shoots and stuff for endorsements. I've also read that Katie comes from a pretty well-to-do family, so money may not be a big issue. While it's nice for kids to make it on their own financially, if I had the means I would support my kid going to college if they wanted to do that over going pro.
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I'd also add that while Phelps may have $55M, his personal life has been up and down. Making that much money at an early age isn't always the best thing. A lot of other pro athletes have made more and lost it all. Maybe she's taking a lesson from that.
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Of course she can. She could also choose to continue competing and earn endorsements, just not in college. Her choice does not preclude future million dollar endorsement income - in fact, it might increase her future earning potential. For her there are clearly other priorities, in addition to money, in her life.
She could even take a year off College like some famous fella's daughter, earn a few million and then go to College for a degree, and retire like us.
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Seems kinda like your definition of history is way down the list....
When you look at how much emphasis people in our society are putting on these things happening versus other things happening - even things happening in Rio - it is inescapable that it is that definition that would apply. But you're beating a dead horse at this point.

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Of course; it isn't the words that matter, though, but rather the focus. I think in a discussion about the Olympics we should be discussing the crime visited on athletes and spectators, and the conditions of the residents of Rio, and the impact on the economy for decades to come, more so than the "games", but if no one else finds that stuff important enough then so be it. I concede to the majority's force of will.
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Back on topic, again. Usain Bolt is amazing, eh?
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Back on topic, again. Usain Bolt is amazing, eh?
He always seems to be able to kick into another high gear. Gatlin was impressive as well, especially considering he is approx 5 years older than Bolt.
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Back on topic, again. Usain Bolt is amazing, eh?
Interesting article on him a week or two ago. Biomechanically analyzing his style, it seems that he's not actually faster than his competition, he just slows down toward the end much more gradually than anyone else.
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Interesting article on him a week or two ago. Biomechanically analyzing his style, it seems that he's not actually faster than his competition, he just slows down toward the end much more gradually than anyone else.
They were making a big deal out of that yesterday, but once he makes up for his slow start because of his size, he is quickly catching and passing the field well before the finish. His top speed is 27.8 mph. I'm having less luck tracking down other runners' speeds but it looks like only a couple other guys have ever barely hit 27mph (Gatlin and Donovan Bailey). He really is faster than everyone else. His turnover is about the same, but he covers more ground with his stride.
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When you look at how much emphasis people in our society are putting on these things happening versus other things happening - even things happening in Rio - it is inescapable that it is that definition that would apply. But you're beating a dead horse at this point.

Of course; it isn't the words that matter, though, but rather the focus. I think in a discussion about the Olympics we should be discussing the crime visited on athletes and spectators, and the conditions of the residents of Rio, and the impact on the economy for decades to come, more so than the "games", but if no one else finds that stuff important enough then so be it. I concede to the majority's force of will.

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