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Old 12-13-2012, 07:42 PM   #1
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Our Universe Might Only Be Ones and Zeroes?

"Some physicists and university researchers say it's possible to test the theory that our entire universe exists inside a computer simulation, like in the 1999 film "The Matrix." "

Whoa: Physicists testing to see if universe is a computer simulation | The Sideshow - Yahoo! News

Can anyone say Holodeck? Like in Star Trek: The Next Generation.
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Yes, it is possible that we are in The Matrix.

But I will still be happy that I am a simulated early retiree, sipping simulated booze, and eating simulated good food. It beats being a simulated poor 3rd-world peasant. Call me practical, but I am content with my role in that big simulation. Not complaining here...
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I think therefore I am. Not sure about the other 6.999999999 billion "humans" in this so called world.
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Whoa, only 1s and 0s? Excellent! That means the SWR is now 100%.

There is no spoon.
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I had read that story previously on Yahoo!, but don't quite understand the premise behind it:

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To translate, if energy signatures in our simulations match those in the universe at large, there's a good chance we, too, exist within a simulation.
If we truly are in a simulation, then why would our computer 'master' allow the simulation to indicate this 'evidence'? Wouldn't our overlords simply tweak things to show that the simulation's estimated energy signature doesn't match the universe's energy signature that we observe?
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Whoa, only 1s and 0s? Excellent! That means the SWR is now 100%.

There is no spoon.

I'm trying to keep mine closer to 11%, maybe a bit higher.
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If we truly are in a simulation, then why would our computer 'master' allow the simulation to indicate this 'evidence'? Wouldn't our overlords simply tweak things to show that the simulation's estimated energy signature doesn't match the universe's energy signature that we observe?
Maybe, but if not the experiment provides supportive results of the simulation. Besides, constantly watching all our experiments sounds to me like too much w*rk for the Master, who presumably has FIREd by now.
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If we are all in The Truman Show, who is the producer? What is outside the studio?
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I haven't watched "The Matrix." But the article reminds me of an old Star Trek: The Next Generation episode in which this character from the holodeck becomes aware of himself and tries to somehow take control of the enterprise. In the end, the crew fakes him out by having his life in a simulation, he thinks he's flying away, escaping but we see that his existence is just a computer program in a cube.

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Yes, it is possible that we are in The Matrix.

But I will still be happy that I am a simulated early retiree, sipping simulated booze, and eating simulated good food. It beats being a simulated poor 3rd-world peasant. Call me practical, but I am content with my role in that big simulation. Not complaining here...

Exactly. Gimme the blue pill, Morpheus*...











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If we are all in The Truman Show, who is the producer? What is outside the studio?

Theologians, freethinkers, philosophers, and physicists keep trying to answer that question millennium after millennium.
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Theologians, freethinkers, philosophers, physicists and stoners keep trying to answer that question millennium after millennium.
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The real question is, of course... Is "reality" susceptible to some flavor of side-channel timing attack? Gaining access to the simulation infrastructure, even if read-only, could be handy. Rooting "reality" would be, well... Score!

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Simulation of gravity, a calculation of order n-squared complexity, would require some powerful machinery given the immense quantity of particles with mass in the universe. Perhaps the simulator can only perform an approximation of gravity, and that's the cause of cosmology's missing mass problem...
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Simulation of gravity, a calculation of order n-squared complexity, would require some powerful machinery given the immense quantity of particles with mass in the universe. Perhaps the simulator can only perform an approximation of gravity, and that's the cause of cosmology's missing mass problem...
Maybe the real reality (in which we are merely a fiction) has infinitely more powerful "computers" than we do, or much simpler or more efficient systems of mathematics which can't even conceive of, such that all these calculations take just a fraction of an earth second to complete for the entire length of existence of our (totally fabricated) universe.
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Let's hope we don't have a "blue screen" tomorrow on 12/21/12.
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Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?




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Humans have questioned the reality of their world for ages. A Chinese philosopher called Zhuangzi who lived in the 4th century BC once had a dream where he was a butterfly. Upon waking up, he pondered if he really was a butterfly dreaming to be a man. See: Zhuangzi - Wikipedia.

I think Zhuangzi's butterfly dream was meant to be a rhetorical device. Excerpt from the above link:
In general, Zhuangzi's philosophy is skeptical, arguing that life is limited and knowledge to be gained is unlimited. To use the limited to pursue the unlimited, he said, was foolish... Zhuangzi's thought can also be considered a precursor of relativism in systems of value.

Thought I would provide the above info for people who might want to pursue this further. FWIW, I got a C in a college class in Philosophy, so am not qualified to discuss much in this matter.
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In an episode of "Nova" on the Universe one of the theory's was that our universe existed on a flat one dimensional plane and that our 3 dimensional world was just an illusion. I was surprised when one of the interviewed physicist's said he believed that model was true.
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