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Old 05-23-2008, 07:36 AM   #61
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Originally Posted by saluki9 View Post
He certainly tried hard, does that count?
Yes, it might. If he was working hard to pass legislation you disagreed with, that is a valid concern for a person. I still see it as a giant leap to think that anyone could get the extreme restrictions that Orchid talked about through Congress.

It's hard in IL to infringe on our second amendment rights more than they already have.
Can you give examples of what you see as unreasonable restrictions in IL? Not being a gun owner myself, I'm not up on the details, so I may just be unaware of them. I don't support unreasonable restrictions on reasonable people, whether it impacts me directly or not, because... it does.

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Old 05-23-2008, 07:37 AM   #62
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Originally Posted by Bimmerbill View Post
I'd consider my rights abolished in MA, and will never live there. Heck, I try not to drive there or even visit.
Well, at least you have the option of living in another state.

In Canada and most other countries, the gun laws are set by the feds (or equivalent) and citizens effectively don't have the ability to move to a more tolerant system.

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