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Old 05-07-2007, 03:07 PM   #61
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You know, CFB, there is one great solution you haven't thought of yet...just get more pets! Then, even as you lose them, there will always be another one left to comfort you in your loss. This is why I need a new dog! Mine are 8, 9, 12, & 14. The cats are good for now--9, 7, 5, 3 & 3. And the sheep are ancient (and lambs are only $65)!

I experienced all the losses of pets as a child, and continue in adulthood. I think the hardest one ever was my show horse, Rocky. And I lost him when I was 25. What Gabe can learn is how compassionate care works (and having a nurse for a Mom will help) and how much quality of life matters. I would not have wanted to be there in person for each and every death of a pet during my childhood, but I had a clear understanding of what was happening.

I think there is a big difference in knowing what is going to happen (having the chance to say goodbye), and standing there when they are euthanized. (It seems that very few pets die so-called natural deaths anymore--going back to that quality of life thing). I have a depressingly large cemetary here that will only get bigger. <sigh> But what I gained from these losses in childhood and hope the littlest Bunny does too, is that the life shared is "worth" the loss.
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Re: Pets. How strong is the bond?
Old 05-07-2007, 06:51 PM   #62
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I think they should be "put to sleep"...
A little extreme, but they could be "fixed"
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I love my two cats. They are part of my family.

Although I am not happy about it, one cat has an occasional litter box problem and likes to use the stairs instead, so the carpet on the stairs is pretty shot - I'll replace it eventually. I've already replaced the carpet downstairs (with beautiful tile, so I'm not too upset about it). My last boyfriend couldn't understand why I'd want to keep a pet that was destroying my floor.

The other cat had an eye problem and needed surgery, twice. About $1500 for the two surgeries. Oh, and he has a heart murmur, $300 for a cardiogram...for...a...cat. It's a good thing they are REALLY, REALLY cute and loving!

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I lost the love of my life (19 pound cat named Micro) earlier this year and I don't think my heart will ever heal from that. I just recently adopted two kittens and they are just absolutely awesome....my heart melts every time I think about them.
For me, my pets are the only ones that break through all of the barriers and facades that I have for other people. Because I am able to just be....my bond with them is greater than with any other human being.
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We had to put down our two older dogs last year - that was very hard - same year I lost my husband.

A couple of months after we put the first one down, we got Maddie. The other older dog and Maddie would play like crazy together. We didn't know the older dog had that much life left in her. We had Maddie two months before we had to put down the other older dog. All of us, my daughter, Maddie and I just lost it when that happened. It was very hard.

My daughter and I feel like we raised a child over the last year with Maddie...she is precious. She was hard work...just like a baby.
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Our bond with our two dogs is very strong. I had my lab before I met my husband, and I often remind him that she was here first. And I mean it. She got me through a really rough time in my life.

We spend over $500 a year on meds for the lab.
Vet bills probably run about $1000 a year for the 2, in a normal year. Throw in an occasional emergency after hours porcupine quill removal for $250 or more.
The Invisible Fence was the best $1300 I ever spent.
I used to spend $2 a pound for dry dog food, but we got away from that.

I don't board them because most kennels consider the lab "special needs" and charge more to distribute her meds. We used to board at the vets in extreme cases, but they don't board anymore. That cost about $60 a night for the 2. Now when we travel, my father comes to stay with them in our home. I don't spend the night at my in-laws because it's not a safe place for the dogs (the lab is blind and deaf). I put up with mud and bugs in the house so my dogs can run in and out on their own (they can open the sliding screen doors, but refuse to shut them!).

I would spend anything on them, as long as their quality of life was good and they weren't in any pain. The lab is blind, deaf, arthritic and incontinent. Many people would have put her down by now, but she still gets around just fine with help from her meds. I knows she's living a good life because she still gets into trouble on an almost daily basis.

It'll be interesting to see how things change with the arrive of a baby in September.
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Our baby arrival worked out great with the dogs. They were super parental and remain so.

My bond was re-tested today. Our oldest dog tore the ACL in her OTHER knee. We had the left one fixed three years ago, now the right one needs surgery. The repaired left one is still pretty weak and has a lot of arthritis in it and we're hosing her down with NSAID's on a daily basis to keep her ambulatory.

This surgery will be about 5k. And she'll have to sleep downstairs from now on instead of hopping up three flights of stairs to sleep on our bed. And the stress on that other repaired knee while she recovers might be too much for it to bear.

And, and, and.

The hits just keep on coming.
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Our oldest dog tore the ACL in her OTHER knee. We had the left one fixed three years ago, now the right one needs surgery. The repaired left one is still pretty weak and has a lot of arthritis in it and we're hosing her down with NSAID's on a daily basis to keep her ambulatory.
Bummer.

How old is she? That's a big part of the decision, no?
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She's about 7, and if she was 107 we'd still do anything and everything to make her as well as we can.

Theres too much pain to leave the leg as-is, and neither of us has the heart to put her down. So we'll do the surgery, knowing she'll probably struggle to recover on one bad and one iffy leg, and hope for the best.
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Theres too much pain to leave the leg as-is, and neither of us has the heart to put her down.
I know.

Good luck - I hope the pooch does great. They can be amazingly resilient.
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I hope so. Our new vet, a nice old country doc who has probably looked at more horses and goats than dogs told me a story about a dog who had to have two legs amputated yet lived many more years and got around just fine.

She's restricted to first floor access from now on. Cant say she was a happy dog about it last night.

Thursday she visits the orthopedic surgeon, supposedly one of the best in the area. Our regular vet said he'd try to talk the guy into doing a little work on humans and working on his knee if he ever needed an operation.

We had the ligament replaced in the first surgery. In this one we're getting the super deluxe surgery where they remove the top of the leg bone, rotate it and refit it to the upper leg bone to eliminate the need for a ligament altogether. Usually reserved for expensive hunting dogs and fancy breeds. Almost good enough for our old farm dog.

My checkbooks unhappy this month. Between the Cobra payments, this operation and gosh, the check engine light just flipped on in the rav4 yesterday...its been a nice month of unexpected high expenses...
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My dog Emily has been restricted to the first floor for about 18 months now due to her horrible hip dysplasia finally just about crippling her. For about 5 years we helped her up the steps at night so she could continue to sleep in the bed with us. She has slept in our bed since the first night that we got her at 7 weeks and 6 days old.

She wasn't happy about staying downstairs at first but I think she doesn't mind now.

Today was a vet-tech appt for yearly shots and titres and a nail trimming. I couldn't get her into the truck (crew cab back seat set up expressly for the dog) so I had to cancel. We will go tomorrow when my wife can help lift her into the truck.

When she was first diagnosed with hip dysplasia her orthopedic vet looked at her x-rays and asked "This dog can walk?" Em still dances at breakfast and dinnertime.

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Jazz is hopping around today and in good spirits, probably from the doggie morphine we have her on.

And the check engine light in our rav turned out to be solved by a recall to reprogram the engine control computer.

Later I'll be checking the dog for any terminal ports and looking around for any firmware upgrades.
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Wonderful news, CFB! Anyone who takes care of their pets like y'all do are stellar folks, that's all I can say!
I hope the surgery provides for many more pain free years for Jazz!

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