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04-15-2014, 05:29 PM
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Here is what I don't get... why would a woman lock the bathroom door between her and her sweetheart? Close the door, yes. Lock the door tells me she wanted security.
I think they had an argument, she got out of bed, went to the bathroom and locked the door. He got angry and shot intending to kill her. The locked door destroys his claim that they had a loving relationship.
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04-15-2014, 06:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brat
Here is what I don't get... why would a woman lock the bathroom door between her and her sweetheart? Close the door, yes. Lock the door tells me she wanted security.
I think they had an argument, she got out of bed, went to the bathroom and locked the door. He got angry and shot intending to kill her. The locked door destroys his claim that they had a loving relationship.
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My sentiments exactly......I'm thinking he threw a hissy fit/temper tantrum and started blasting.
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04-15-2014, 06:34 PM
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Pistorious is represented by Barry Roux who is said the be the best defence counsel in South Africa (others may disagree).
Remember the trial is before a judge and 2 assessors (the civil system), not a jury, although the cross examination seems to be conducted as if it was a jury trial.
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04-15-2014, 06:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brat
....I think they had an argument, she got out of bed, went to the bathroom and locked the door. He got angry and shot intending to kill her. The locked door destroys his claim that they had a loving relationship.
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Too bad she didn't run out the front door instead. She had her whole life in front of her, and he stole it in a fit of rage.
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04-15-2014, 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brat
Here is what I don't get... why would a woman lock the bathroom door between her and her sweetheart? Close the door, yes. Lock the door tells me she wanted security.
I think they had an argument, she got out of bed, went to the bathroom and locked the door. He got angry and shot intending to kill her. The locked door destroys his claim that they had a loving relationship.
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Yes, I just learned of that locked door detail today when I clicked through some interactive graphic (otherwise, I have not really followed this, just the bits & pieces you can't help but hear).
Did this come up in any of the cross examination? It sure seems odd to lock the bathroom door, unless as you say, she was afraid.
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04-15-2014, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Nemo2
My sentiments exactly......I'm thinking he threw a hissy fit/temper tantrum and started blasting.
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In earlier testimony, he was said to fire a gun out an open car sunroof, in a fit of rage.
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04-15-2014, 08:00 PM
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No self defense expert will tell you to shoot through a wall. Who knows what's behind it?
In this state, you're likely to be charged with 3 felonies for that action. Bullets can't see, they hit whatever and possibly keep on going. It's amazing how many pieces of sheet rock a bullet can pass through.
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04-15-2014, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pb4uski
rather, the lack thereof.
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I stand corrected.
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04-15-2014, 08:09 PM
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He's toast. And I think that is fine with a large majority of the human race because few believe his theatrics. Fine with me - fry him.
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04-15-2014, 08:28 PM
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She was standing facing the door and he claims she never said anything while he was yelling to call the police. The logic he stands on in defense of his actions has me stumped.
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04-16-2014, 07:11 AM
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04-16-2014, 07:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Running_Man
She was standing facing the door and he claims she never said anything while he was yelling to call the police. The logic he stands on in defense of his actions has me stumped.
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No pun intended...
Have paid no attention to the trial, as I do with most dog and pony shows very public trials. My gut tells me he's a total d*ck, and likely shot her in a fit of rage. Hopefully, justice will be properly served.
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04-16-2014, 07:27 AM
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In the South Africa justice system, once the defendant begins testimony, he or she cannot have any contact with the defense attorneys. The defendant must testify without the benefit of counsel. Very different from the American system, and perhaps not a bad thing.
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04-16-2014, 09:36 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wishing
In the South Africa justice system, once the defendant begins testimony, he or she cannot have any contact with the defense attorneys. The defendant must testify without the benefit of counsel. Very different from the American system, and perhaps not a bad thing.
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Thanks for the clarification. That's why I mistakenly thought he was representing himself as there was no "I object" as the pitpull prosecutor was telling Pistorius to "Say it..."
The system might be not a bad thing, but in baseball terms it's like the Pitcher in the AL throwing at a batter then hiding behind the DH rule
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