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Old 06-28-2009, 04:19 PM   #21
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I bet this is another Natasha Richardson head bump type thing.
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Old 06-28-2009, 05:53 PM   #22
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I wonder if he was taking blood thinners for some reason? My old boss just lost his wife due to what seemed to be a minor fall, but she was on blood thinners due to a heart condition and she bled in the brain. She thought she was fine and waited until the next morning to to go to the emergency room. But she slid into a coma and died a couple of weeks later.
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Don't take those head bumps lightly. My wife was getting a boxed article off of an upper shelf and it slipped and knocked her on the head. She said it hurt but didn't think anymore of it until her vision went blurred. She called me, I took her to her eye doctor who diagnosed it as a torn retina. She had to undergo laser surgery and has had vision problems since due to that retina tear.
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The only time I ever heard my doctor raise his voice, and I mean loud, and shake his finger at me, was when I got bopped in the head with a slow moving but heavy sailboat boom. It was a glancing blow, not a direct hit TG.
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I did not go to the hospital because I "felt fine". I could walk and talk and recite Pi to the usual 6 digits.
I used ice for the slight swelling in the dent in my scalp. Head scan the next day (ordered by my very PO'd doctor) was OK. But the headache that followed for a week was horrendous.
I was lucky lucky and even luckier yet. The outcome could have been much worse.
I will never again take any kind of head blow lightly.
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Head trauma

Very good advice to get head injuries checked out right away. I was particularly sad when Natasha Richardson died as she was a young wife and mother. I saw one of her films recently, The White Countess....loved it! I think she was a better actress than her mother.
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FAA has blamed his death on not wearing a seat belt during landing. After considerable online discussion about that - FAA spokesman now says they never said that. Maybe more to the story.

Moral: Blows to the head should be taken seriously even if you feel fine.
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Yes, the FAA has jumped quickly on the "it's not our fault" bandwagon haven't they?
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But why would it be the FAA's fault? If there is fault with anyone but the person not wearing the seatbelt (an idea I personally reject), it would be with the airline for not having its flight crew confirming that everyone had their seat belts on. How the FAA would be at fault is beyond me.

Having said that, as long as the passengers were duly told they needed their seat belts fastened, a competent adult should be able to assume the responsibility for their own choice to not comply.

Anyway, it seems like we're jumping the gun until and unless an autopsy confirms head injuries contributed to the death.
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Not disagreeing with you, ziggy29, but they did jump on it fast...so fast it was like they were trying to protect the airline for wrongdoing.
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Not disagreeing with you, ziggy29, but they did jump on it fast...so fast it was like they were trying to protect the airline for wrongdoing.
OK -- I can see that. Maybe they were CYA on behalf of the airline, but the FAA itself wouldn't seem to be liable for anything. I don't know that the FAA can be sued anyway.
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The airlines charge for checked bags so more and more folks are putting heavy items in the overhead bins. This slows loading and unloading the plane and takes away from safety. I would be happy if we went back to under seat storage only.

As to Billy, news said autopsy results at 12 eastern. So, then we will know.

Breaking news..... no evidence of head trauma, no history of drug abuse, looks like heart related.
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As an aside, when/if safety rises in importance, probably the single best way to improve the crash survivability of commercial aircraft would be to reverse the seats (have everyone face the back of the airplane). Unlike a car (where impacts can come from any direction), virtually all crash-related acceleration in an airplane pushes the passengers toward the nose of the plane. Spreading this impact over the large surface of the back and supporting the head/neck with the seatback is a much better solution than holding the pelvis with a thin strap and allowing the body to jacknife forward. This is the way seating is configured on many military passenger aircraft and it works just fine, but I'm sure commercial passengers would object. In a perfect world I'd also further restrict overhead storage, make simple smoke-hoods available for everyone, and mandate that all liferafts be located at the doors or in the wings (on some jetliners a few of the rafts are in the overhead storage area over middle seats and would have to be passed over the heads of the passengers to the door. Does anyone think that's going to work during an actual evacuation?)
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Has anyone studied the health effects of swirling your naked hand around in a fishbowl full of OxiClean every day?
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The autopsy conducted Monday morning revealed Mays suffered from hypertensive heart disease, Adams said.

"It's not uncommon to have a sudden death with this kind of disease," Adams said.


"Heart disease took Billy from us," wife says in statement


TV pitchman Billy Mays had heart disease, coroner says - CNN.com

Looks like the airline is in the clear.
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Then again, a slick lawyer could try to make the argument that the incident induced a stress that may have triggered his demise.

But I'm sure the airline's own lawyers and bean counters are breathing a bit easier.
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Then again, a slick lawyer could try to make the argument that the incident induced a stress that may have triggered his demise.
Locally 3 years back, the widow of an executive who died from a heart attack tried to sue the company he worked for, saying that stress caused his heart to fail. It didn't go far, as an expert witness described in breathless detail not only the fact that the executive was overweight, but was a smoker for 30 years and had THREE untreated medical problems........
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FinanceDude, If this story has the standard ending a Mississippi jury awarded the family $100,000,000!
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