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Old 11-12-2006, 08:51 AM   #121
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I have a public service announcement.....Texas we recycle here I haven't taken an official poll of the surrounding area, but I think just about everybody does it and not everybody is a socialist scandivanian - I never hear anyone complain. They put a nominal charge on the property tax bill....it reduces how much you put in the garbage can so in turn I reduced the size of the can and thus pay about half of what I would otherwise, so its a good thing in a couple ways...
Never said anything about socialist scandinavian..... but, why make ME pay for YOUR recycling.... and if it is a good thing (which I will not argue... I think it is a good thing) then it SHOULD PAY FOR ITSELF...

And taking a look around the neighborhood... not many people put their bin out yesterday... maybe 10 to 15%... so, in real dollar terms it cost $30 per household who recycles....

But, as I said, this was just an example of how 'liberals' want to govern..
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Old 11-12-2006, 09:00 AM   #122
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Even though the thread has gotten needlessly personal with some people, it has been an interesting read and educational - Martha thank you for sharing about your upbringing and about being a 9 yr old girl with a gun and getting off school to go hunting...and that Greg has a glock...fascinating..wonder if there are other women on the forum that can say that...

Even though I have shown my misgivings about Nancy & Harry, I am hopeful and actually pretty sure they will go to the center, work with the Pres and the repubs and do their best for the country....somethings won't get done...but think the country works better through compromise...

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He can't spell either. Sorry. Just slipped out.

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As far as guns, I got my first rifle when I was maybe 8 or 9 years old. My father taught me safe handling of firearms and there were firearm safety classes at school. You were allowed time off from school to hunt. For meat eaters, I believe the experience of hunting is valuable. We still have guns in the house. I bought my husband a glock once for his birthday. There is no way, with all the guns out there, that firearms are going to be banned. But it is a big safety issue. Too many accidents and suicides are occuring with guns. We need to think about the public health issues involved and work on those. Also, I have no problem with waiting periods to buy guns--it might stop a hot head or two from buying a gun and shooting his wife.
Interesting. Where I grew up the first day of hunting season was a holiday, for everyone, no school, no non-emergency stated government, many businesses. The school even let students out for a week of excused absences if they brought a form from their parents saying they were going hunting. And I too received a pistol, except mine was a Ruger, for my birthday form my wife.

What I find interesting is we have such a common background, yet we are so far apart in our opinions.
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Interesting. Where I grew up the first day of hunting season was a holiday, for everyone, no school, no non-emergency stated government, many businesses. The school even let students out for a week of excused absences if they brought a form from their parents saying they were going hunting. And I too received a pistol, except mine was a Ruger, for my birthday form my wife.

What I find interesting is we have such a common background, yet we are so far apart in our opinions.
I find it interesting too. Also, I think we tend not to get as angry at others whose opinions differ from our own if we at least have some understanding of who they are and why they think the way they think, even if we disagree with them. I have appreciated your sharing of your backround in other threads. I might be more understanding of Charles if I knew him better.

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...and that Greg has a glock...fascinating..wonder if there are other women on the forum that can say that...?
Probably not. Most of the women who have given me guns don't visit this forum .

A while back I converted the .40 cal. S&W Glock to a smaller 9mm. DW had problems controlling it during rapid fire drills. In the interest of creating a weapon harmony/compatibility within the marriage, I switched.

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Probably not. Most of the women who have given me guns don't visit this forum .

A while back I converted the .40 cal. S&W Glock to a smaller 9mm. DW had problems controlling it during rapid fire drills. In the interest of creating a weapon harmony/compatibility within the marriage, I switched.



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Martha, I'm impressed! A Glock for a birthday present

If you don't mind I'd like to have my wife consult you before my next birthday

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Dantien, I was going to delete my shoot at each other post. I was feeling guilt over my upbringing which would have resulting in the permanent loss of your gun if it ever, but ever, even accidently, was pointed at another person.
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Dantien, I was going to delete my shoot at each other post. I was feeling guilt over my upbringing which would have resulting in the permanent loss of your gun if it ever, but ever, even accidently, was pointed at another person.
Go ahead and delete away....but enjoy your humor though!
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... I think instead of saying that conservatives are bad, libertarians are bad, socialists are bad, or liberals are bad, is that we would get a whole lot further by talking about particular proposals or problems and try to weigh dispassionately the upside and the downside of regulation.
Right on, Martha. Thanks for working to keep the debate civil, instead of the sophomoric name calling which appears now common here.


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wow, this is some thread.

I just have a couple of points to add, but would prefer to decline calling other posters names, if that's ok with everyone.

First, to me it is irrelevant whether or not the government is actually listening in on me. The fact that they have given themselves the power to do so, as well as to detain me indefinitely without charge, representation etc. tells me that all these so-called "strict constitutionalist" conservatives don't care one bit about the constitution. All they care about is absolute power.

However, my real anger is at both the dems, for not putting up more of a fuss and for not filibustering this very dangerous power grab, and at the American people, for not bothering to understand and care about the real implications of this change.

Much as I believe that Bush has committed impeachable offenses, (and probably could be tried as a war criminal in the Hague if the US had the balls to submit to international justice instead of it's cowardly position on the matter), I have more modest goals for the dems....

I think they can make Bush and the Repubs look very bad if they play their cards right. Act like they are cooperating. Don't behave like mean junkyard dog Repubs. Then....about September of 2008, have a minimum wage bill plus massive repeal of the tax cuts for the wealthy. Keep the tax cuts for the middle class. Take away the presidential right to torture. Push environmental global-warming bills. Hit Bushes desk with reasonable bills and force him to veto them just in time for the election. Then blame all Repubs when they refuse to help override the vetos.

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Maybe "liberals" like Martha see life in better terms than "conservatives" like JG do, because liberals have better lives themselves. The selfishness of conservatives tends to bring them down . . .
Really? Most of the anger I see on heree is from liberals........
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Yep

I guess we don't fully understand we won the election. BTW - when I grew up the Scandinavian socialists were the liberals, the Democrats were the conservatives - they only penciled in a number for the Republicans - until the durn civil rights movement hit.

Used to be a joke - one couldn't get on the Washington State ballot without a name ending in -son.

That reminds me - I need a new shotgun - mine went in Katrina. Nothing like a Democrat with a gun in a winning election year - ARMED with a gen-u-ine Curmudgeon certificate.

heh heh heh heh heh - actually I haven't read all of this thread - but thought to post - to keep my count up.
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Sorry didn't read the entire thread either. Just sooo happy for the change. Bi-partisanship? Rather not. No not a demo nor repub. Just glad for the change, long overdue!
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That reminds me - I need a new shotgun - mine went in Katrina. Nothing like a Democrat with a gun in a winning election year - ARMED with a gen-u-ine Curmudgeon certificate.

I'd hurry up if you want one. We now have a democratic congress so your gun purchasing time will soon be running out.


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Just wanted to let everyone know that I still like everyone here no matter what was said on the thread.

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Just wanted to let everyone know that I still like everyone here no matter what was said on the thread.

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