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[Danny]

....this sinking feeling...

Can't the Dems find someone more warm & fuzzy to lead....ummm maybe like Charlie Rangel or Barney Frank and Danny Devito Carl Levin

[brewer12345]

Was that really necessary?

[Danny]

you mean the Danny Devito part?

[astromeria]

Dan, did you feel the same way about these faces: Dick Armey, Tom Delay, Denny Hastert, Bill Frist? I grant that Trent Lott looks pretty good (on the outside).

[REWahoo]

brewer, astro....

The way I see it, those of you who have had so much merriment taking shots (however well deserved) at the Congressional leadership over the past few years are going to have to see what it feels like to be on the receiving end. It's only fair that you allow the (I want to get the label correct here...) red state redneck conservative neo...phytes have their fun just like you guys did.

[brewer12345]

OK, but you caould at least wait until they actually assume control of Congress. and start kicking Bush's ass

[justin]

Dang, this morning on the way in to work gas prices had shot up another $0.01 cents. Stupid democrats are trying to push their green agenda by making gas unaffordable for the common workers like me!?!! It's a vast left wing conspiracy undertaken by democraps. Can't they do anything right?

(open season on democrats is officially open!)

[poboy]

Quote:

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) -- The San Francisco 49ers ended negotiations with the city about building a new stadium and plan to move to either Santa Clara or somewhere else in California, The Associated Press learned Wednesday night.

Pelosi fallout already being seen.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

[Danny]

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Originally Posted by astromeria Dan, did you feel the same way about these faces: Dick Armey, Tom Delay, Denny Hastert, Bill Frist? I grant that Trent Lott looks pretty good (on the outside).

Well, with those guys I got this sickening involuntary urge to wrap fingers around necks feeling.... :P

I fear the incoming dem leads are firebrands and not statesman/woman and have poisoned the relationship with Bush so it will be hard to sell their agenda....they will also screwup the 2008 election for the dems ...I read about how some conservatives were hoping for dems to take control so people can get a taste of what Pelosi is like - then there will be a backlash to get the Repubs back in 08...

I'm absolutely serious about Levin & Rangel by the way

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by DanTien I fear the incoming dem leads are firebrands and not statesman/woman and have poisoned the relationship with Bush so it will be hard to sell their agenda

You must be joking. The incoming democrats are by and large as centrist as the party has been in a long time. The only reason they get tarred with all this nonsense is that the far right nutzoids that have been running the country into the ditch couldn't get the incoming democrats to give them a "Ja Vold!" despite several years of trying. As for poisoning the relationship with Bush: Ha! The rethuglicans decided they weren't interested in bipartisanship and did things exclusively their way for years, even going so far as to threaten to take away the fiibuster because they wanted no input from the other side. You are looking at the wrong side of the aisle for those who pissed in the punchbowl of bipartisanship.

If the Chief Monkey is very lucky, the incoming Congress will choose to let bygones be bygones (for now...) and try to work together with him for the good of the country. People like Pelosi, Reid and Rangel have publicly said that they think attempts at revenge favored by some of their junior colleagues would be misuided. So Bush had better smile when he talks to the new Congressional leaders, because the alternative isn't that far away and it will be an accomplishment f the current top Democrats manage to restrain the party's impulse for paybacks.

[Danny]

I'm aware that the other side "...pissed in the punchbowl of bipartisanship." to quote a phrase...but its time to be bi-partisan and are you so confident that Pelosi & Reid are the ones on the dem side to get that done...I have serious doubts...The dems could do a lot better!

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by DanTien The dems could do a lot better!

Such as? You would prefer Ted Kennedy in charge of the Senate, perhaps?

[Danny]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 Such as? You would prefer Ted Kennedy in charge of the Senate, perhaps?

see my first post

[JohnP]

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: DanTien on Today at 09:57:52 AM] I'm aware that the other side "...pissed in the punchbowl of bipartisanship." to quote a phrase...but its time to be bi-partisan and are you so confident that Pelosi & Reid are the ones on the dem side to get that done...I have serious doubts...The dems could do a lot better!

Dan - Denial is not a river in Africa The people p***ing in the punchbowl were not the dems.

JohnP

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by DanTien see my first post

Well, Rangel and Frank will be in charge of some of the most important committees, so I was under the impression that they are among they new leadership. I think Levin will be in charge of a committee, too.

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 attempts at revenge....... the party's impulse for paybacks.

Sadly, while I had hoped the Dems would take the high road and work on issues that truly need to be resolved for all of our good, they do seem to be unable to let go of their revenge and payback focus.

[FinanceDude]

Time will tell................Dems will get a honeymoon for a few months, but the American voter is not to be triffled with. Look at the GOP, they thought John Q Public would allow the GOP to work on agendas that were not conservative, and they got what they deserved...........

[Danny]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 Well, Rangel and Frank will be in charge of some of the most important committees, so I was under the impression that they are among they new leadership. I think Levin will be in charge of a committee, too.

yes, and its important that they serve on those committees....picked them as examples of people who are proven at working with the otherside...I'm not aware of others who could step up that don't have key spots on key committees, but I'm hoping..otherwise maybe Nancy and Reid will surprise me....

[brewer12345]

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Originally Posted by DanTien yes, and its important that they serve on those committees....picked them as examples of people who are proven at working with the otherside...I'm not aware of others who could step up that don't have key spots on key committees, but I'm hoping..otherwise maybe Nancy and Reid will surprise me....

For several years, there hasn't been any opportunity for democrats to work with the other side because rethuglicans wouldn't share. So don't talk to me about how the democrats don't have leaders who can't work with the other side. As I said, Bush should be damned happy that the first act of the new Congress isn't a round of subpoenas.

[Danny]

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Originally Posted by brewer12345 For several years, there hasn't been any opportunity for democrats to work with the other side because rethuglicans wouldn't share. So don't talk to me about how the democrats don't have leaders who can't work with the other side. As I said, Bush should be damned happy that the first act of the new Congress isn't a round of subpoenas.

...potential supoenas - maybe why Rumsfeld was let go so quickly?

Hey be nice! I'm trying to work with you here in either a partisan or bipartisan way - I'm not sure anymore!...I'm not talking to you about "how the democrats don't have leaders who can't work with the other side" I've mentioned a few already....Obama and some of new crop look promising also...