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View Poll Results: Do people become curmudgeons later in life, or are they born that way?
People aren’t born that way, life makes them angry old people 21 22.34%
Curmudgeoness is a trait some are given at birth, this one takes a long time to develop 26 27.66%
Not sure, but get off my lawn! 27 28.72%
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Old 10-05-2012, 12:29 PM   #21
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Is that some sort of euphemism?
That wouldn't be kosher......
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Curmudgeons ae not necessarily angry, and angry people are not necessarily curmudgeons. Look at the occupy movement. Are they curmudgeons? Look at the violent anti-abortionists. Are they curmudgeons?

In fact, it seems that most people mellow out with age. Young people are always full of ideals that they would really really like others to live up to. Old people know that is a lost cause, so they give up on it.

One other thing, it takes no sklls at all to be grumpy. It takes some real intelligence and usually some learning from others and from life to be a curmudgeon.

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Curmudgeons ae not necessarily angry, and angry people are not necessarily curmudgeons.
American English not being my first language I had never heard of a curmudgeon until I joined this site, and had to look it up. I usually equate ill-tempered with angry.

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a crusty, ill-tempered, and usually old man. — cur·mud·geon·li·ness \-lē-nəs\ noun. — cur·mud·geon·ly \-lē\ adjective.
I think, in general, curmudgeons are born with seeds of pessimism and anger in their personality, which then grow and blossom as they age.
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American English not being my first language I had never heard of a curmudgeon until I joined this site, and had to look it up. I usually equate ill-tempered with angry.
Intersting. Here is a short historical survey of meanings and possible derivations. It seems to be largely a mystery.

The Mavens' Word of the Day

Here is a blog by a man who is not only not angry, but gay, and a self described curmudgeon:

The Gay Curmudgeon

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Intersting. Here is a short historical survey of meanings and possible derivations. It seems to be largely a mystery.

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Alan, a very cool mysterious character!

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One other thing, it takes no sklls at all to be grumpy. It takes some real intelligence and usually some learning from others and from life to be a curmudgeon.
See, I feel that I've raised grumpery to an art form.

Don't give up dude, I'm sure you could improve on your grumpiness as well. Work on it a little bit.
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This guy gotta rank pretty high in the curmudgeon world:

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Great link FIRE'd. I think that guy must be from Yorkshire.

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When I was a boy, people didn’t have time for humor. We were too busy wiping the smirk off Hitler’s face to concern ourselves with mindless tittering and idle guffaws. For us, laughter was like shoe laces or smallpox vaccines – nice to have but not a luxury most of us could afford.
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Great link FIRE'd. I think that guy must be from Yorkshire.
That quote got me too! Wow! To have the mentality that laughter must be rationed and in tiny doses too........
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Read the rest of his blog post though. This man was making a distinction between "classy" jokes of the old days and the tasteless vulgar humor of today.
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Don't take it too literally, it's a satire.
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Read the rest of his blog post though. This man was making a distinction between "classy" jokes of the old days and the tasteless vulgar humor of today.
A couple of years ago we were visiting a WW II museum in England and they had a section devoted to cartoons during the war. It was great to see that folks could still appreciate humor in the worst of circumstances.
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Curmudgeons ae not necessarily angry, and angry people are not necessarily curmudgeons. Look at the occupy movement. Are they curmudgeons? Look at the violent anti-abortionists. Are they curmudgeons?

In fact, it seems that most people mellow out with age. Young people are always full of ideals that they would really really like others to live up to. Old people know that is a lost cause, so they give up on it.

One other thing, it takes no sklls at all to be grumpy. It takes some real intelligence and usually some learning from others and from life to be a curmudgeon.

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I happen to agree with the "curmudgeon" brought up by Fired that humor does not need the use of cursing words, name calling, and excessive profanity.

Yes, like anything else, humor can be classy or crude.
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