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Old 06-16-2016, 10:21 AM   #201
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Sounds to me like really bad luck, Imoldernu! I'm glad you figured out how to be the Administrator and got that fixed.
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Sometimes I wonder if all of this stuff is just designed to speed my entrance to la la land.
Then you don't want to hear that you need to upgrade to UEFI from BIOS as part of the "upgrade" to Windows 10 on older machines... particularly if you have a SSD as Drive C.

HTG Explains: Learn How UEFI Will Replace Your PCís BIOS

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I upgraded, I bought a Chromebook.
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:59 PM   #204
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Then you don't want to hear that you need to upgrade to UEFI from BIOS as part of the "upgrade" to Windows 10 on older machines... particularly if you have a SSD as Drive C.
I must be misunderstanding something. I updated to Windows 10 and still have the original BIOS.
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I must be misunderstanding something. I updated to Windows 10 and still have the original BIOS.
Yeah, it is backwards compatible and, of course, gives the impression of hunkey dorey but I'll bet things are not running near as well (efficient?) as they were before... again, particularly if you have a SSD.
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I upgraded, I bought a Chromebook.
So did I, and I am completely satisfied. I can even load Linux on it if I so desire.
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Then you don't want to hear that you need to upgrade to UEFI from BIOS as part of the "upgrade" to Windows 10 on older machines... particularly if you have a SSD as Drive C.

HTG Explains: Learn How UEFI Will Replace Your PCís BIOS

What You Need to Know About Using UEFI Instead of the BIOS
This is part of what determines if your system is Windows 10 compatible. It's a hardware thing. Most Windows 8 machines had the capability, some Windows 7 computers do not. But it depends on the motherboard. From that first link you shared:

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I swapped to 10 and returned to the 8.1 immediately. Really didn't like it....and happy with my decision.
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(For now. Wait until how you feel after January 9, 2018, after which "you will no longer receive security updates that can help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software that can steal your personal information.")
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(For now. Wait until how you feel after January 9, 2018, after which "you will no longer receive security updates that can help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software that can steal your personal information.")
Based on recent history, we may be at Windows 11 by then anyway!
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Actually the operating assumption right now is that there won't be a Windows 11 or at least not what you would think of as a new operating system to upgrade to. Rather Windows 10 by its very nature is automatically updated over time component by component. So it could very well be that by that time Windows would seem like Windows 11 to somebody who has only seen Windows 10 on the first day of release, but it still leaves Windows 8 users without security updates and facing the prospect of having to pay to upgrade to Windows 10.
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Ha ha, the "upgradeable operating system." I will believe that when it happens. Just another marketing ploy in my book. With any luck, Microsoft will implode before January of 2018 and Windows 10.999 will be replaced by something that is an order of magnitude better.
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I swapped to 10 and returned to the 8.1 immediately. Really didn't like it....and happy with my decision.
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(For now. Wait until how you feel after January 9, 2018, after which "you will no longer receive security updates that can help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software that can steal your personal information.")
Info from Microsoft -

Security updates will be available from Windows Update during the Mainstream Support phase, and the Extended Support phase

End of support
End of support refers to the date when Microsoft no longer provides automatic fixes, updates, or online technical assistance. This is the time to make sure you have the latest available update or service pack installed. Without Microsoft support, you will no longer receive security updates that can help protect your PC from harmful viruses, spyware, and other malicious software that can steal your personal information. For more information go to Microsoft Support Lifecycle.
Client operating systems Latest update or service pack End of mainstream support End of extended support Windows XP

Service Pack 3

April 14, 2009

April 8, 2014

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April 11, 2017 - Extended

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Service Pack 1

January 13, 2015 - Mainstream

January 14, 2020 - Extended

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January 9, 2018 - Mainstream

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October 13, 2020 - Mainstream

October 14, 2025 - Extended
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It's a bit of a death by 1,000 cuts thing. Every day I find some minor problem and I have to search for a solution.

I've gotten OneDrive to behave, mostly, but a change from Win 8.1 means that it's harder to make it simply an external drive (that is, avoid syncing).

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Actually the operating assumption right now is that there won't be a Windows 11 or at least not what you would think of as a new operating system to upgrade to. Rather Windows 10 by its very nature is automatically updated over time component by component. So it could very well be that by that time Windows would seem like Windows 11 to somebody who has only seen Windows 10 on the first day of release, but it still leaves Windows 8 users without security updates and facing the prospect of having to pay to upgrade to Windows 10.
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So did I, and I am completely satisfied. I can even load Linux on it if I so desire.
Dumb question. Any limitations using a Chromebook? Can you use it to prepare your income taxes for example? In other words.... can you do everything on a CB that you can with a Windows machine?
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Any limitations using a Chromebook? Can you use it to prepare your income taxes for example? In other words.... can you do everything on a CB that you can with a Windows machine?
This website explains what you can and can't do with a Chromebook very well: Chromebook vs. Windows Laptops: The Real Story
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Thanks. A good starting point. I'm not in the market for anything at the moment, so I have time to figure out whether it's a good option for me.
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I finally updated my Asus laptop to win 10 and it mostly worked OK no major issues to report - everything seemed to work. I have noticed however that the computer seems to be slowing down as more and more updates are pushed by the MS automatic update system. It's really slow after this Wednesday's magic update and now seems to take a long time to startup. I suspect they sent a buggy update this time.

I do most of my computing on an ancient Pentium Desktop with Linux Mint XFCE ( or occasionally KDE for a change of pace) which frankly is faster and loads programs and websites far faster than windows 10 on a Pentium I3 processor but such is progress... So this whole win 10 is kind of amusing when you have alternatives - Thank you Linux...
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