Poll - Has the Christian Right has destroyed the Republican Party.

Are there any common sense Republicans that could win the nomination for President in 2008?

John McCain, Colin Powell etc?

[SteveR]

I agree that:

"no common sense will prevail next time."

[HFWR]

Ditto...

[VoyT]

*don't know C-T ... McCain gave the commencement speech at Falwell's Liberty University last week ..
* *As for Powell ... it may be too late, timing wise. I don't get any indications that he's interested, anyway.

[cute fuzzy bunny]

Can we have another voting item added: "Too many incendiary political topics that, while they'll surely make some interesting discussion, will change nothing?"

We'll get exactly whoever the billionaires who pay for the tv ads decide will run, and neither guy will really be that different from the other.

[astromeria]

I could vote for a social liberal, foreign policy moderate, fiscal conservative of any party...know anyone?

[Ed_The_Gypsy]

CFB said:

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We'll get exactly whoever the billionaires who pay for the tv ads decide will run, and neither guy will really be that different from the other.

Too true.

[Nords]

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Originally Posted by VoyT As for Powell ... it may be too late, timing wise. I don't get any indications that he's interested, anyway.

His military pension alone must be over $115K/year with a COLA & lifetime medical... I don't think he's coming back!

[laurence]

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Originally Posted by Nords His military pension alone must be over $115K/year with a COLA & lifetime medical... I don't think he's coming back!

If he's ever short of cash, he can just write another book for the $4 million advance.

Demos might get the house, but they won't get the Senate. As far as the Presidential election, who are the Dems going to nominate? I mean, what state would Hillary carry that Kerry didn't? Tenesee? Arkansas? Not likely. We could see another election where the popular vote does not jibe with the electoral vote.

If McCain can survive the primaries, he'll win the general election. But I don't think he will, we'll end up with Frist v. H. Clinton, or some such.

[Dawg52]

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Originally Posted by Cute Fuzzy Bunny Can we have another voting item added: "Too many incendiary political topics that, while they'll surely make some interesting discussion, will change nothing?"

I vote for this option. BTW Cut, am I to assume from your comments here and in the past about the Christian right that you think there are no Christians in the Democratic Party? Just curious.

[Papi]

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Originally Posted by DOG51 I vote for this option. BTW Cut, am I to assume from your comments here and in the past about the Christian right that you think there are no Christians in the Democratic Party? Just curious.

I recall media coverage of Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea attending church in Washington D.C. So there are at least 3 dems that are Christians.

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Originally Posted by DOG51 I vote for this option. BTW Cut, am I to assume from your comments here and in the past about the Christian right that you think there are no Christians in the Democratic Party? Just curious.

Heck - I'm a Christian and a Democrat - But, there is a difference between the Christian Right Wing that currently controls the GOP and a Christian. The most Christian person I can think of in politics is Jimmy Carter, a Democrat. He walks the walk.

An example of the Christian Right is Pat Robertson that tried for the GOP nomination - And he's Fricken Nuts!

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by Cut-Throat Heck - I'm a Christian

Oh gawd!* * Sheeesh C-T, don't say stuff like that without warning!* Hee hee.......* I'm laughing myself right out of the chair........* * * Excellent, excellent.* I gotta give ya credit for that one!

[sgeeeee]

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Originally Posted by youbet Oh gawd!* * Sheeesh C-T, don't say stuff like that without warning!* Hee hee.......* I'm laughing myself right out of the chair........* * * Excellent, excellent.* I gotta give ya credit for that one!

I couldn't figure out whether this was a joke in poor taste or an actual opinion of a small mind?

[Dawg52]

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Originally Posted by Cut-Throat Heck - I'm a Christian and a Democrat - But, there is a difference between the Christian Right Wing that currently controls the GOP and a Christian. The most Christian person I can think of in politics is Jimmy Carter, a Democrat. He walks the walk. An example of the Christian Right is Pat Robertson that tried for the GOP nomination - And he's Fricken Nuts!

Thanks for the clarification. And I do agree with you with respect to Pat Robertson being nuts. I hope the Republicans do nominate someone like McCain or Powell and I also hope the Democrats nominate a sensible person. It would be nice to think that we would be in good hands whether a Republican or Democrat is elected. But that is probably just wishful thinking. *

[gtmeouttahere]

Not enough choices....you would not make a very good politician as you have missed a lot of major demographics....what ever happened to bi-partisan politics

[youbet]

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Originally Posted by DOG51 I hope the Republicans do nominate someone like McCain or Powell and I also hope the Democrats nominate a sensible person. It would be nice to think that we would be in good hands whether a Republican or Democrat is elected. But that is probably just wishful thinking. *

You know when you make a sensible, thoughtful statement like that, you interrupt the flow of the thread.*

[youbet]

1 George Washington Episcopalian (Deist)
2 John Adams Congregationalist (raised); Unitarian
3 Thomas Jefferson raised Episcopalian; later no specific denomination
held Christian, Deist, Unitarian beliefs
4 James Madison Episcopalian (deist?)
5 James Monroe Episcopalian (deist?)
6 John Quincy Adams Unitarian
7 Andrew Jackson Presbyterian
8 Martin Van Buren Dutch Reformed
9 William Henry Harrison Episcopalian
10 John Tyler Episcopalian (deist)
11 James Knox Polk Presbyterian; Methodist
12 Zachary Taylor Episcopalian
13 Millard Fillmore Unitarian
14 Franklin Pierce Episcopalian
15 James Buchanan Presbyterian
16 Abraham Lincoln raised Baptist; later no specific denomination (deist)
17 Andrew Johnson Christian (no specific denomination)
18 Ulysses S Grant Presbyterian; Methodist
19 Rutherford B. Hayes Presbyterian; Methodist (?)
20 James A. Garfield Disciples of Christ
21 Chester A. Arthur Episcopalian
22 Grover Cleveland Presbyterian
23 Benjamin Harrison Presbyterian
24 Grover Cleveland Presbyterian
25 William McKinley Methodist
26 Theodore Roosevelt Dutch Reformed; Episcopalian
27 William Howard Taft Unitarian
28 Woodrow Wilson Presbyterian
29 Warren G. Harding Baptist
30 Calvin Coolidge Congregationalist
31 Herbert Hoover Quaker
32 Franklin Delano Roosevelt Episcopalian
33 Harry S. Truman Southern Baptist
34 Dwight D. Eisenhower River Brethren; Jehovah's Witnesses; Presbyterian
35 John F. Kennedy Catholic
36 Lyndon B. Johnson Disciples of Christ
37 Richard M. Nixon Quaker
38 Gerald Ford Episcopalian
39 Jimmy Carter Baptist (former Southern Baptist)
40 Ronald Reagan Disciples of Christ; Presbyterian
41 George H. W. Bush Episcopalian
42 William Jefferson Clinton Baptist
43 George W. Bush Methodist (former Episcopalian)

[Cool Dood]

Not a heck of a lot of atheists there to execute our strategy of intolerance! I guess we'll just sit in our little corners and pretend we have some influence with which to not-tolerate people...

[farmerEd]

If Jesus Christ himself returned to earth today and decided to run as a Republican candidate for president he would be run out of town by the Christian Conservatives as a liberal.