View Poll Results: What class are you in? Your definition.
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Lower class
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Lower middle class
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Middle middle class
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Upper middle class
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Upper class
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I have no class
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15.91% |
This question is stupid and/or confuses me
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Poll: What class are you in?
01-26-2017, 09:57 AM
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Poll: What class are you in?
No, not retirement class.
We discussed class in this thread lately, and I wondered what forum members perceive to be their own class.
Definitions: YOU get to define class, any way you want.
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01-26-2017, 10:13 AM
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#2
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I voted "Middle middle class" because that is how we live (i.e. modest small home, dine out once a week, both cars > 12 years old, etc.). However, I suspect that based on assets, we are likely "Upper middle class".
-Wino
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01-26-2017, 10:17 AM
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Not only are there many different ways to parse "class," there are special ones just for Americans, that attempt to combine income, education, and occupation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States
Based on these constructs, Mr. A. rose from working class family to upper-middle class. I clambered from middle-middle family to upper-middle.
But both of us have always considered ourselves to be at least as good as anybody. Even when we were personally quite poor (lower class in terms of assets!)
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01-26-2017, 10:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amethyst
Not only are there many different ways to parse "class," there are special ones just for Americans, that attempt to combine income, education, and occupation:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social..._United_States
Based on these constructs, Mr. A. rose from working class to upper-middle class. I clambered from middle-middle to upper-middle.
But both of us have always considered ourselves to be at least as good as anybody.
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Thanks for the link! The issues you raise, are why I decided to let everyone decide on what class they are in, for themselves. I suppose that for some it's almost more of a feeling than an objective categorization.
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01-26-2017, 10:27 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWino
I voted "Middle middle class" because that is how we live (i.e. modest small home, dine out once a week, both cars > 12 years old, etc.). However, I suspect that based on assets, we are likely "Upper middle class".
-Wino
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It's hard to decide, isn't it! But I think that whatever we put is either correct or pretty close to it.
My own income has corresponded to each of those class categories at some time in my life. I voted upper middle because at present that seems most accurate. Amethyst's link says pretty much the same thing in my case.
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01-26-2017, 10:30 AM
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I chose no class as I like to play hooky. That's what retirement is like ... playing hooky .
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01-26-2017, 10:34 AM
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"Class..... We have no class. In fact, we don't need class. I don't have to show you any stinking class..."
Apologies to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre.
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01-26-2017, 10:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by W2R
It's hard to decide, isn't it! But I think that whatever we put is either correct or pretty close to it.
My own income has corresponded to each of those class categories at some time in my life. I voted upper middle because at present that seems most accurate. Amethyst's link says pretty much the same thing in my case.
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Yeah, I think it is also influenced by who you associate with. Most of our friends and family fall into the "Lower middle class" to "Middle middle class" range.
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01-26-2017, 10:59 AM
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No option for gentry?
All kidding aside, we're definitely not part of the country club set. I'll go with upper-middle class on the basis that we are comfortably within the upper quintile of wealth for Canada, but in no danger of being confused with one percenters.
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01-26-2017, 11:13 AM
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anyone have a link where I can find my class?
I didn't see "stuck up country club snob" on the list
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01-26-2017, 11:31 AM
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I feel equally uncomfortable in any class-conscious situation or gathering, but I love the concept in literature (Fitzgerald, Dominick Dunne, off the top of my head). I know my ancestors a few centuries ago were stable hands to French royalty, so probably above that (the stable hands, not the royalty).
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01-26-2017, 11:34 AM
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No Class
"I've got friends in low places...."
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01-26-2017, 11:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bestwifeever
I feel equally uncomfortable in any class-conscious situation or gathering, but I love the concept in literature (Fitzgerald, Dominick Dunne, off the top of my head). I know my ancestors a few centuries ago were stable hands to French royalty, so probably above that (the stable hands, not the royalty).
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Although nowadays, I presume, 'stable hands' indicate that one neither drinks heavily nor has Parkinson's?
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01-26-2017, 11:40 AM
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I always thought I was middle, but the wiki stuff puts me at upper middle, so I too have been advanced in class.
And since I am now upper middle class and the stock market is soaring, I'm gonna enjoy me a forty dollar lunch -
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01-26-2017, 11:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemo2
Although nowadays, I presume, 'stable hands' indicate that one neither drinks heavily nor has Parkinson's?
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Then I AM still a stable hand! Thanks!
Now if only I wasn't scared to death of horses....
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01-26-2017, 11:46 AM
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As an early retiree I embrace the lower class lifestyle as much as possible, but have upper-middle class assets.
I'm perfectly satisfied living the LBYM and Cheapskate Retirement model, but can stray into the "upper arrogant bastard" mode if coerced.
I don't spend any time really thinking about "class" structures to be honest.
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01-26-2017, 12:07 PM
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Currently employed and upper middle class. This could fall to middle middle class upon retirement depending on the exact definition. Born into working class family.
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01-26-2017, 12:13 PM
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Not keen on "classes." Some of the best, most interesting people I've known have/had modest assets. And some of the wealthiest people I've known are selfish and obnoxious - and extremely "class" conscious. No thanks. The Millionaire Next Door eloquently spoke to "class" IMO.
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01-26-2017, 12:14 PM
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Since we get to decide what makes up the class, anyway we want, I guess we should comment why we select one class over the other as best as we can. (Make sense to me anyway)
For me, even though I have zero debt and more than a couple of million in investable assets plus a good bit of money in "other assets", I voted upper middle class (at best). I'm not sure what it would take for me to feel like I'm in the upper classes but I know I don't feel like that now.
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01-26-2017, 01:08 PM
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I suppose it's upper middle class, based on the numbers. Although if you looked at my lifestyle, you'd assume middle or maybe even lower middle class. Living below my means is a way of life.
p.s. "Upper class" always reminds me of the Upper Class Twit sketch by Monty Python.
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